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seano34
11-09-2007, 05:38 AM
This is a spot I have trouble with against donkeys as i never know where i am in the hand. How should I be playing these hands. The flop and turn calls could mean anything as villain had slowplayed trips before but is also consistent to drawing to anything from a gutshot to overcards

Villain is uber-donkey with 81/6 stats and i have been playing a fairly standard game

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $5.07
Hero (SB): $30.02
BB: $19.73
UTG: $29.89
CO: $66.09

Pre-Flop: K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($2.75) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG calls $2

Turn: ($6.75) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls $3

River: ($12.75) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $14.75</font>
Lego05
11-09-2007, 05:42 AM
What's his aggression factor?


Against a calling station idiot 81/6 I bet turn and river here folding to a raise...and my bets are bigger than yours.


Aganst an over aggressive one I check call at least the turn and maybe check call the river too. If I decide not to check call river then I bet/fold.
seano34
11-09-2007, 05:50 AM
his pf aggression factor is less than 1.

The problem is i never know if he has slowplayed trips or is getting over excited about hitting his AJo on the river
seano34
11-09-2007, 05:50 AM
sorry thats post flop af of less than 1
creamfillin
11-09-2007, 05:55 AM
Bet like 7 on the river, this river bet is so transparent even against this fishy.
Lego05
11-09-2007, 05:58 AM
Bet bigger on the turn.

Bet bigger on the river.


Fold if he raises you on either street.
hanover
11-09-2007, 06:03 AM
Your river bet is way too small .. I'd bet around $6-7 and fold to a raise.
ama0330
11-09-2007, 06:35 AM
You have induced this raise with your tiny bet sizes, he is reading you for exactly what you are - scared. I'd bet this small if I was trying to induce a raise and then call, but you should be betting more on the turn and river.
Parvex
11-09-2007, 07:11 AM
He is a station. We have Kings. I bet more on turn and river, folding to a raise on the turn, putting him all in one the river. He is going to call with enough trash to make it worth it.
bozzer
11-09-2007, 07:16 AM
i would bet more on turn and river. partly this stops silly things like this happening.

river raise would make me want to break something.. if he can draw to overs i'm inclined to look him up here but there's nothing wrong with folding.
genius55
11-09-2007, 07:19 AM
read above commetns, turn and river are badly misplayed
bozzer
11-09-2007, 07:21 AM
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read above commetns, turn and river are badly misplayed

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if yr talking to me, i was grunching (replying w/out reading previous responses).
genius55
11-09-2007, 07:22 AM
talking to op
seano34
11-09-2007, 07:41 AM
Thanks for the responses guys - guess its bet more on 4th and 5th then.
genius55
11-09-2007, 07:43 AM
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Thanks for the responses guys - guess its bet more on 4th and 5th then.

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correct or def don't bet 1/3 1/4th pot whatever u do is the main thing becuz ur giving free cards to draws and not getting proper value at the same time