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Berge20
11-05-2007, 11:06 AM
Dear Mr. XXXXXX:



Thank you for contacting me regarding Internet gambling. I appreciate you taking the time to contact me on this important topic and I welcome the opportunity to respond.



There is no doubt that the Internet and related technologies have had a remarkable effect on the U.S. economy in recent years. Commerce on the Internet has enhanced American industry's ability to distribute goods economically and efficiently. The continuing development of this industry in California has provided hundreds of thousands of new, well-paying jobs, and I am committed to strengthening online commerce and preserving and expanding this vital job base.



The advent of the Internet has clearly been beneficial to American society; however, I believe the same cannot be said for Internet-based gambling activity. Internet gambling has become too easily accessible to minors, too subject to fraud and criminal misuse, and too easily used as a tool to evade state gambling laws.



While I understand your thoughts on internet gambling, I have supported legislation aimed at curbing Internet gambling during my tenure in the Senate. For example, I supported the SAFE Port Act, passed into law as Public Law 109-347, which included (as Title VIII) Internet gambling restrictions.



While we do not necessarily agree on this particular topic, please know that I will certainly keep your thoughts in mind should legislation on Internet gambling be considered in the 110th Congress.



Again, thank you for your letter. I hop you will continue to keep me informed on issues of importance to you. Best regards.







Sincerely yours, Dianne Feinstein

United States Senator

sobefuddled
11-05-2007, 12:12 PM
"I will certainly keep your thoughts in mind should legislation on Internet gambling be considered in the 110th Congress."
If you want her support you better figure out how this legislation presents an economic opportunity for women....

Wynton
11-05-2007, 12:15 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how, those concerned with abuses of the unregulated internet gambling world, assume that the remedy is prohibition rather than regulation.

Skallagrim
11-05-2007, 12:32 PM
Same Senator who caved on the Mukasey "I cant say for sure if water boarding is torture" nomination.

Cant you folks in CA get someone better?

Waterboarding might just not be torture, yeah right; and of course kids will be better protected by getting to play at illegal gambling sites rather than being barred from legal, regulated ones.

The intelligence gene must be slowly breeding out of humans, I fear. Otherwise why do we keep electing these fools?

Skallagrim

MiltonFriedman
11-05-2007, 01:45 PM
F**king NannyState Stalinist

MiltonFriedman
11-05-2007, 01:50 PM
Sometimes we get the representation we deserve. I have voted Democrat all my life, but I could not vote for Feinstein were I in California.

TheEngineer
11-05-2007, 01:56 PM
She's always been strongly against us. I think she's an F-, right along with Kyl.

Skallagrim
11-05-2007, 02:30 PM
F- is too nice, we should have a lower category. How about ISI? "Infernal Stalinist Idiot" (Although probably Milton and I are the only ones to truly appreciate the reference).

This Senator is the epitome of everything wrong with the Democratic party. I wouldn't even consider voting Democratic right now except, to my horror, the Republicans are actually worse!

Skallagrim

JPFisher55
11-05-2007, 02:52 PM
Skall, as a former Republican, and still fiscal, limited government conservative, to my horror, I completely agree with you. Look at the price of the dollar. Bushs' spend but don't tax is worse than the Dems tax and spend. And I am afraid that the free trade policy under both Bush and Clinton has lead to an unacceptable high negative balance of trade and of payments. We have too many problems much worse than the UIGEA.

SonOfWestwood
11-05-2007, 03:07 PM
Pretty much the exact same thing that I got from her, back when I sent her a message before the UIGEA was passed. Got pretty much the same thing from Boxer, too.

Skallagrim
11-05-2007, 03:25 PM
When I was younger, and there was a real working difference between the 2 parties, I used to move my votes back and forth, voting republican when I cared more about my wallet's freedom, and voting democrat when I cared more about my personal freedom, and voting libertarian when the choices were equally bad.

Now, the GWB administration has so fouled up our constitutional tradition, and made the Republicans the party that terrifies both my wallet and my person, I feel I have to vote for some Democrat just to insure even a mild slowing of the nation's decline. But I will not feel happy about it.

Skallagrim

Kurn, son of Mogh
11-05-2007, 03:55 PM
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F- is too nice, we should have a lower category. How about ISI? "Infernal Stalinist Idiot" (Although probably Milton and I are the only ones to truly appreciate the reference).

This Senator is the epitome of everything wrong with the Democratic party. I wouldn't even consider voting Democratic right now except, to my horror, the Republicans are actually worse!

Skallagrim

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As long as we buy into the myth that those are your only two choices we'll keep getting screwed.

JPFisher55
11-05-2007, 03:59 PM
Skall, I'm not sure if Mrs. Clinton will slow up the decline or speed it up. She might speed up the economic decline, but slow up the loss of civil liberties. Sometimes I think it would be better if the decline in both speeds up. Then people might actually notice it and demand real change.

Lottery Larry
11-05-2007, 04:09 PM
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please know that I will certainly keep your thoughts in mind should legislation on Internet gambling be considered in the 110th Congress.


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hmmm... now, where have I read this phrase before?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=0#Post12756800 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=12756800&an=0&page=0 #Post12756800)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=0#Post12780008 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=12780008&an=0&page=0 #Post12780008)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=1#Post12740883 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=12740883&an=0&page=1 #Post12740883)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=2#Post12541244 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=12541244&an=0&page=2 #Post12541244)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...=2#Post12544398 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=12544398&an=0&page=2 #Post12544398)

Grisgra
11-07-2007, 02:03 AM
No big surprise. She's pretty much California's Joe Lieberman. Up with waterboarding, up with the flag-burning amendment, up with the UIGEA . . . yeah, she's a great 'liberal' to have on our side.

dlk9s
11-07-2007, 08:47 AM
It's funny - I watched some of a documentary on HBO yesterday about the 2004 Democratic candidates on the primary campaign trail. In the film, Joe Lieberman (who I really want to like) bought lottery tickets and said he does so every day.

Maybe I should write to him, educate him about odds, and see if he still thinks the lottery is better than poker.

DeadMoneyDad
11-07-2007, 09:27 AM
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Skall, I'm not sure if Mrs. Clinton will slow up the decline or speed it up. She might speed up the economic decline, but slow up the loss of civil liberties. Sometimes I think it would be better if the decline in both speeds up. Then people might actually notice it and demand real change.

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As someone with personal knowledge of how the Clinton crew ran the Executive Branch I can tell you they had very little regard for any statute that got in their way. Yep if you were in their favor you likely felt they were doing the right things. But our laws are their to protect everyone not those just currently in power.

Ms Rodahm would be a major mistake for the country. I'm not sure Ron Paul could do worse. At least Ron Paul isn't filled with the knowledge of how to completely trash any law that is bothersome to his beliefs. Most of his major "nut ball" plans would never make it to the Hill, let alone through it.

Hillary on the other hand with a compliant Congress would have more power than Bill ever did. Given Bill's trick of showing that all you need are 34 Senators to defend you to the last she might even have even less regard for the Courts than she already does.

Bill's the campainger, Hillary is the woman with the plans and a legislative mind and complete disregard for procedure that would even make LBJ blush.


D$D

JPFisher55
11-07-2007, 12:19 PM
D$D, I completely agree with your assessment of Mrs. Clinton. But I note that Mr. Clinton had a Dem controlled Congress for 2 years and did nothing except some minor tax increases that may have been well timed.
Yes, Mrs. Clinton would be a mistake, especially on the security problems that the US faces. Except for security issues, I don't think that it will matter much who is elected President.

Wynton
11-07-2007, 05:25 PM
When I read this kind of political diatribe, it really makes me give you less credit than I probably should for your substantive comments.