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winzton
10-29-2007, 04:29 AM
Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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Hero (SB): $9.40
BB: $10
UTG: $17.15
BTN: $6.75

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.30</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.10</font>, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.20) J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $2.20</font>, Hero calls $2.20

Turn: ($6.60) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $6.60</font>, Hero ?

Villain: 18.18/16.36/6.5

Should I fold or call?
kroeliewoelie
10-29-2007, 04:42 AM
Can be Qx,Jx (with x=J,Q,K,A). Can be a flushdraw can be a someone sensing weakness. Can be KK+. You have to bet this flop in my opinion and don't hang around too long when finding too much resistance.
winzton
10-29-2007, 05:05 AM
any other ideas?
winzton
10-29-2007, 06:04 AM
bump it!
HarmMan
10-29-2007, 06:20 AM
I agree with kroel. Raise flop, when called you have an idea where you stand on the turn.
whoshotfirst
10-29-2007, 06:26 AM
Kroel said bet flop, and i like that better, cause it's a lot cheaper.
HarmMan
10-29-2007, 06:32 AM
Many villains c-bet anyhow, despite your bet. Imo you are losing more money, without getting anywhere.
whoshotfirst
10-29-2007, 06:39 AM
I think if we bet something around 2, it makes it rather hard for villain to raise anything that we have beat. How much would you raise?
wems
10-29-2007, 06:47 AM
Id raise to 6ish on the flop
whoshotfirst
10-29-2007, 06:54 AM
Are we raisng for value? What worse hands are going to call, what better hands are going to fold? Does KK fold?
HarmMan
10-29-2007, 07:07 AM
I just noticed, you need to raise allin if you raise this. I think you will have a decent amount of fold equity here, since he would take the same line probably with KQ and AK. When he calls:

Board: Jc Jh Qh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.726% 20.09% 06.64% 3381 1117.00 { AdQd }
Hand 1: 73.274% 66.64% 06.64% 11215 1117.00 { JJ+, AhKh, AQs-AJs, KQs }