NL10: AA hits set on awful board

[wattascoop]

Villain is 20/14/0 after 60 hands.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $10.75
CO: $10.20
Hero (BTN): $10.70
SB: $11.85
BB: $12.75
UTG: $2.40

Pre-Flop: A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.30</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.70) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.70</font>, <font color="red">Hero ????

[Spurious]

Reraise preflop, but i think he got something like AK, KK, rather than a club flush.

Just push allin or make it 6 to go, he's ultra passive postflop, but we got a pretty good hand. If we are behind there is a 35% chance we'll improve.

[mecbluefugate]

Raises a lot, imo

[wingchunflush]

Re raise Preflop he likes his hand, raise flop or shove, I prefer shove so you see the other cards no matter what. Make sure the board pairs on the turn or the river.

[maciczka]

3-bet that flop, if it close to Your whole stack, just shove

[wattascoop]

I actually did shove here, so I'm glad that wasn't a stupid play. I thought calling on flop was best because I had position.

[Spurious]

There arent many hands that fit a flush, therefore shove is standard.

I cant think of a hand that makes a flush and 3bets preflop.

[Bantam222]

so much ugly

[wattascoop]

Bantam -- other than not three betting pf, why is this ugly? I'm not trying to be argumentative -- I really do want to know.

[poincaraux]

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There arent many hands that fit a flush, therefore shove is standard.

I cant think of a hand that makes a flush and 3bets preflop.

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Some people reaaaaaally like JTs.

Also, I know a lot of 2+2 folks at least claim to be 3betting 76s+ quite a bit.

Edit
But, yeah, I shove, obviously.

AA: 0 combinations
KK: 3 combinations, we crush
AK: 3 combinations, we crush

QcJc-7c6c: 6 combinations, we're behind 2:1

So, we're ahead like 2:1 vs. AA,KK,AKo,AKs,QcJc,JcTc,Tc9c,9c8c,8c7c,7c6c.

And that's being generous on the 3-betting hands that have a made flush here. Add in anything else, and we crush even more.

[Spurious]

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There arent many hands that fit a flush, therefore shove is standard.

I cant think of a hand that makes a flush and 3bets preflop.

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Some people reaaaaaally like JTs.

Also, I know a lot of 2+2 folks at least claim to be 3betting 76s+ quite a bit.

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but OP didnt say he was 3betting light
and do you think a 2+2 fellow has an AF of 0 ?
come on, there is no way he flopped a flush
and straight is unlikely as well

[wingchunflush]

Doesnt matter if he hits a flush we have plenty of outs. I am not folding here.

[maSkraP]

AA is a premium hand. But beyond that, it's the best hole cards you can dream of. Doesn't matter what position you're in, with pocket aces, you 3-bet on top of someone's reraise. You need to narrow the villain's hand range with pocket aces to significantly boost ur chances of winning with it. It always sucks to lose with AA due to the reason that one might have not 3-bet, thus, giving more leeway for villain to play his hand.

The flop, I would have pushed. I can't tell for certain if he has KK, but if he does, obviously you're in the lead. You're 3-bet preflop could have really helped narrow villain's hand range. But anyways, even if he hit his flush now, you have significant outs to beat him still. I'd push to get full value of your outs and implied odds. I say this because you have 7 outs on the turn, and 10 outs on the river (if you didn't hit on the turn).

[poincaraux]

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There arent many hands that fit a flush, therefore shove is standard.

I cant think of a hand that makes a flush and 3bets preflop.

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Some people reaaaaaally like JTs.

Also, I know a lot of 2+2 folks at least claim to be 3betting 76s+ quite a bit.

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but OP didnt say he was 3betting light
and do you think a 2+2 fellow has an AF of 0 ?
come on, there is no way he flopped a flush
and straight is unlikely as well

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Sorry .. I was in the middle of editing my post when I accidentally submitted it. My point was 1) there are some flushes possible .. small sample size and all, so we don't really know much about this guy. 2) Who cares? shove!

[Spurious]

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Who cares? shove!

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[thoman8r]

This is a really easy shove.

1) AK, KK, or even AQc are way more likely than a flopped flush.
2) You can't call because another club either kills your action or gives your opponent the best hand.

I really don't think the board is that awful given the circumstances. It's extremely unlikely he flopped a flush and you are going to get mad action from a lot of made hands that could put you on a big draw.

[thoman8r]

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There arent many hands that fit a flush, therefore shove is standard.

I cant think of a hand that makes a flush and 3bets preflop.

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Some people reaaaaaally like JTs.

Also, I know a lot of 2+2 folks at least claim to be 3betting 76s+ quite a bit.

Edit
But, yeah, I shove, obviously.

AA: 0 combinations
KK: 3 combinations, we crush
AK: 3 combinations, we crush

QcJc-7c6c: 6 combinations, we're behind 2:1

So, we're ahead like 2:1 vs. AA,KK,AKo,AKs,QcJc,JcTc,Tc9c,9c8c,8c7c,7c6c.

And that's being generous on the 3-betting hands that have a made flush here. Add in anything else, and we crush even more.

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You can't even count all 6 combinations of club connectors because there's no way any sane player is going to always 3-bet with them, which is basically what you're saying by including all of them. You can maybe count one of them, which means we are absolutely crushing this range right now.

[wattascoop]

This breaks the record for the number of responses to a hand I've posted. Thanks, all.