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Djcoax
10-28-2007, 12:30 PM
SB is 21/33 based on only 24 hands when this little gem unfolds. I did not want to raise because of the possibility of overpairs. I should have 3-bet , right ?


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SB ($13.25)
BB ($7.80)
UTG ($2.09)
UTG+1 ($2.19)
MP1 ($2.15)
MP2 ($2.10)
MP3($9.85)
CO ($25.16)
Hero ($16.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $0.4</font>, CO calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30.

Flop: ($2.90) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.4</font>, MP3 calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.40.

Turn: ($4.50) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.2</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $9.7</font>, CO calls $25.16 (All-In), Hero calls $16.55 (All-In), SB calls $13.20 (All-In).

River: ($69.85) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $69.85
catoandtonic
10-28-2007, 12:39 PM
I 3bet that pre-flop when it first gets to me.

As played, you really, really needed to 3-bet that flop with the intention of getting all in. Too many people seeing a cheap card there. On turn you also need to be raising with the intention of getting all in.

The hand worked out well for you because you got an extremely large pot with a great hand, but you should have played every street more aggressively.

Btw, it is standard to pay off AA here.
Djcoax
10-28-2007, 12:47 PM
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The hand worked out well for you because you got an extremely large pot with a great hand, but you should have played every street more aggressively.



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Antinome
10-28-2007, 12:49 PM
3bet preflop, 3bet flop, 4bet turn.

You don't want to play TT in a multiway pot preflop.
You don't need or want to slowplay your set on that flop.
whyherro
10-28-2007, 12:54 PM
PF is fine, he's just playing it for set value. Big error is on the flop, try and get more money in. Probably put in a raise to 3 ish.

Although it certainly looks like things worked out, you got two opponents in drawing almost dead probably.
catoandtonic
10-28-2007, 12:54 PM
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The hand worked out well for you because you got an extremely large pot with a great hand, but you should have played every street more aggressively.



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Well, you only lose to 2 hands: 45 and AA. If AA, there is nothing you can do. Pay it off, take it like a man and walk it off. Realize that long term you will be on the AA side just as often as on the lower side.

If 45, then more aggressive play could have forced our opponent to make very large errors in his attempt to make his hand.

Be assured that playing these hands very fast creates more profit than any other way. Cant win them all though.
orlov
10-28-2007, 12:59 PM
Never ever slowplay a set with a flushdraw on a board. Bet/raise flop and turn.
bsball8806
10-28-2007, 12:59 PM
Please raise this on the flop. Do you really want a 4 way pot on the turn? Think of all the terrible cards that can come on the turn...hearts.. J Q or K..try to get it all in on the flop.

We want to raise to get value against AK, AQ, A10, or 33, while at the same time making JQh, KQh, KJh pay for their draws.
Hebel
10-28-2007, 01:00 PM
There are soooooo many draws on that flop, plus an ace. You really, really need to get money in on that flop, ax hands will play and so will the numerous flush/straight draws

and i wouldnt exactly call someone who minreraises pf in a multiway pot "solid"
Kasane
10-28-2007, 01:17 PM
pf call is probably fine in full ring.

You want to get as much money in as possible on that flop. Just calling after you hit a set is burning money.

Oh, and FR forum is down the street. This is 6max. Play 6max for better learning curve and to fight the war on boredom.
Djcoax
10-28-2007, 02:17 PM
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The hand worked out well for you because you got an extremely large pot with a great hand, but you should have played every street more aggressively.



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It did not end well /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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Well, you only lose to 2 hands: 45 and AA. If AA, there is nothing you can do. Pay it off, take it like a man and walk it off. Realize that long term you will be on the AA side just as often as on the lower side.

If 45, then more aggressive play could have forced our opponent to make very large errors in his attempt to make his hand.

Be assured that playing these hands very fast creates more profit than any other way. Cant win them all though.

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Post deleted. Very sorry , i'm just new here
corsakh
10-28-2007, 02:19 PM
Ban pls.