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Advent
10-28-2007, 10:54 AM
No reads on villian. How would you play the hand?
Call the raise, and re-evaluate turn? Push on the flop? Fold?

******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.1/$0.2
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $32
CO: $20
Button: $40
HERO: $35
BB: $40

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.6</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $1.6</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($3.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $3.4</font>,<font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $8</font>,HERO?


Results:
Final pot: $

DennisGPunkt
10-28-2007, 10:58 AM
RR pot... push...

oh, wow, didnt notice you were that deep... uhm... atleast call and see what he does on the turn.. still id raise here probably. KK/QQ/JJ/TT .. you beat them all

Profish2285
10-28-2007, 10:58 AM
Shove, lots of draws, villain can easily have an overpair as well.

Advent
10-28-2007, 11:26 AM
I shoved, waiting with the results, but how would you play if we both had 200BB behind?

Profish2285
10-28-2007, 11:29 AM
Almost definitely still playing for stacks unless I have a read that villain doesnt play overpairs like this. If this is ever a draw or an overpair, which it usually is, then its time to felt it.

Inf1n1tY
10-28-2007, 11:34 AM
push. u beat 77+ + all drawing hands, u only lose to 44, 55, 66, 78, 23 and there's only ~10$ left to bet.

bingrich
10-28-2007, 11:50 AM
Yeah, push. I probably raise to 2 preflop. It will make it a little easier to get stacks in. CO only raised 3x and then you raised less than 3x his bet.

catoandtonic
10-28-2007, 11:51 AM
Your pre-flop 3-bet should be higher. 2-2.40 sounds about right. As far as this hand, shoving is fine. If your pre-flop 3bet had been higher, you could have really cut down the implied odds for villain to catch a set. As played, he had the odds.

With 200bb, there is no way to reasonably play without offering villain set odds. We can aim for a final pot size that represents a decent but less than 400bb pot. That said, I 3-bet to 2.2. Then I would just call his flop raise. I would aim to put in about 125-140bb, making a 250-280bb pot. If he sets on me, he makes a small but not enormous profit and hopefully I get decent value the times he has smaller pair unimproved.

whyherro
10-28-2007, 12:30 PM
do you know how he plays his draws?

PF 3bet at least pot. I'd say in most situations just push. His range is something like strong draws, JJ+, and sets.

Advent
10-28-2007, 03:11 PM
I do not know how he play his draws. Yes, the preflop raise is a little bit small, usually i make it to at least $1.8 here. Dont really know why i made it less..

Profish2285
10-28-2007, 03:25 PM
The problem with the small pre flop re raise is that you are giving him odds for set mining. You should make it around 2 pf, but whatever, you played it how you played it. Just make sure next time you re raise more, dont be afraid to lose customers by raising small.