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basementproject
10-26-2007, 06:57 PM
BB runs 52/4.76. Extremely frustrating playing this guy. I've been raising into him a ton and cbetting flops (obv he's calling my PF raises), watching him fold, gingerly laughing to myself at his play. But now...

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com)Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

SB: $26.95
BB: $14.90
Hero (BTN): $27.95

Pre-Flop: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, SB calls $0.65, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.25</font>, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $11, Hero is somewhat aggrivated by the minbetting and doesn't want to do anything irrational, so he asks you guys what's up.</font>

Usually on this board I push his flop 3-bet all day. But again, his 4.76 PFR% scares me. I don't understand why he lead the flop with only a buck when he was 3betting me preflop, which is what prompted me to fight back. Now I'm just confused.

Kelley22
10-26-2007, 07:07 PM
At this point he is almost all in anyways so just get it in. VS player like this I'm typically comfortable getting it in on a flop like this.

Khaos4k
10-26-2007, 07:10 PM
When villain's get into a minraise war I always laugh because it's obvious that they both have huge hands and don't want the other person to fold. I also usually see in terrible players. Don't freakin do it.

Also, you do not have a hand that can beat most of his 3bet pre-flop range. Fold to the min-re-raise.

Kelley22
10-26-2007, 07:11 PM
But given villians description you don't think we are ahead a large amount of the time?

Milky
10-26-2007, 07:11 PM
Limit forum is that way &lt;----

Seriously, what are you doing here? If you're going to 4bet, just put it all-in here, which is what I'd probably do, though his line really looks like a big overpair.

TilTandWiN
10-26-2007, 07:13 PM
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $26.95
BB: $14.90
Hero (BTN): $27.95

Pre-Flop: 9 9 dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.75) 6 3 2 (3 Players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB raises to $5, Hero FOLDS

Milky
10-26-2007, 07:14 PM
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But given villians description you don't think we are ahead a large amount of the time?

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Well you've said he usually folds to your cbet and now all of a sudden he's minraising you left and right. Would he do this w/TP or 77-88 or something like that?

I really hate folding to the minraise though...

Khaos4k
10-26-2007, 07:14 PM
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But given villians description you don't think we are ahead a large amount of the time?

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Villain is super loose passive. He raises only 5% of the time pre-flop, and I'm sure his 3 bet% is much less than that. We are not looking at his 50% range of hands, we are looking at his 5%.

Kelley22
10-26-2007, 07:18 PM
Anyone this 4betting this preflop would make this hand play easier?

Milky
10-26-2007, 07:21 PM
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Anyone this 4betting this preflop would make this hand play easier?

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4betting pf is bad. Villain's pf stats say he's pretty passive and when this kind of villain 3bets (even the min) it's usually a huge sign of strength.

Lego05
10-26-2007, 07:40 PM
This guy barely ever raises and you say he's been calling and folding on the flop. Now he REraises pre-flop. I'm only calling the small reraise pre-flop for set value.


I might call that weak $1 bet on flop but I'm not raising. Once I do raise and he min3bets me I fold unless I have odds to draw to a 2 outer cause that's what it is. He's got a big pair here like always.

tannenj
10-26-2007, 07:43 PM
op,

wtf are you doing, lol. call his $1 flop bet. after you make it $8 to go, you need to stick the rest in. he generally has a better overpair here.

basementproject
10-26-2007, 08:02 PM
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wtf are you doing, lol.

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I ask myself this same question bi-weekly. Donked off a lot of cash last night for no good reason, really.

Thx for review.