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gergong2
10-26-2007, 03:14 PM
I found this hand very interesting so i decided to post.
Villain is 14/12/4 over 400 hands. He is a regular.
The two most important Notes on him : "AA KK JJ 3bet", "Slowplays fh"

So after his raise on flop i was sure he cannot have a high pp, 22, 33.
I was almost 100 % sure he has something like 77-1010.
I was cbetting a lot, so he could easily rr me with medium pairs, so i decided to represent a big PP.
Anyone like my line?
$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com (http://weaktight.com/)

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$25.65</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$86.00</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$54.45</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$26.70</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$110.80</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Hero is CO K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN calls $2, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $22</font>, BTN calls $16

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($51.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BTN goes all-in $27.45</font>

River: J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($119.2, 2 players)

kurto
10-26-2007, 03:33 PM
spew.

(1) your notes are good and helpful but seeing someone slowplayed a hand (or even more then once) against someone doesn't mean they do it everytime.
(2) A tight player gets almost half his stack in on the flop and you think you're going to bluff him out?

Once you reraise him and he calls... he's not going out.

I hope for your sake you sucked out with a back door flush and he ends up with 2 pair.

Lego05
10-26-2007, 03:40 PM
Flop can be fine. He likely has a midpair and he looks like he has nitty TAG stats...so if you think he can fold that midpair then this is fine (obviously you also need to do this with big pairs sometimes). However, I think you should make your flop c-bet bigger and your flop 3bet should also be bigger.


He isn't gonna fold on the turn. However, I kinda think you have 15 outs a lot....but again no FE so I think check...hope he checks behind and see if you hit, but call if he shoves. If you hit shove the river.




Curious.....PM results please.

wingchunflush
10-26-2007, 04:28 PM
I dont like this either. I am folding to the Cbet on the flop.

gergong2
10-26-2007, 04:38 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I am folding to the Cbet on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]
?

wingchunflush
10-26-2007, 04:54 PM
sorry i mean the raise.

Profish2285
10-26-2007, 04:56 PM
I need a very specific read to raise his flop bet here. Hey may have nitty stats, but that still doesnt mean he is folding his 88 or 99 here.

ZingZhang
10-26-2007, 05:00 PM
At 1st I hated it, now not so much. The only thing I'd have a prob with is the flop reraise, it looks kinda bluffy and represents only an overpair to the board, ie every other pair, I don't think this gets 10 10+ to fold and i doubt even 77+ is folding here, villain dependent obv. It also seriously commits you to the hand. I wouldn't mind peeling one time as it looks like villain has that over pair and you have outs + backdoor draws. Once you pick up the flush draw it's fine to shove as played as you are so committed, though the A/images/graemlins/club.gif would have been a better card to do it on, still not repping anything that will fold him but at least now you have some equity.

Edit: Of course, whether you needed to do this is another thing entirely, but once you've gone for it, it's not so shabby.