View Full Version : 50NL - Weird river spot with AQo
thing85
10-26-2007, 01:58 PM
Villain is 32/12/3 over 172 hands.
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $48
BB: $76.20
UTG: $48.75
Hero (MP): $66.55
CO: $68.45
BTN: $14.65
Pre-Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $2.25, BB folds
Flop: ($5.50) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls $4
Turn: ($13.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8
River: ($29.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $20</font>, Hero...?
What did he hit on the river? Or could this somehow be a slowplayed 2? WTF? What's my play?
albedoa
10-26-2007, 02:03 PM
Any other reads? Has he done this before?
thing85
10-26-2007, 02:04 PM
No other reads...I don't think I've really had any tough hands with him before.
Milky
10-26-2007, 02:09 PM
Looks like a missed draw to me... Have you seen him bluff at all lately? I think trip 2s (or more likely quad 2s) raise turn when you've shown you have a hand (most likely an ace) and I don't think 55 calls the flop. I suppose it could be A2/A5 but it's such a strange line I think I'd pay off here.
EDIT: Actually this could very well be 45/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Profish2285
10-26-2007, 02:09 PM
This is a fold against an unknown. I have paid people off my first few thousand hands when they took lines like this. Eventually I learned that people doing this have better hands like 95% of the time and are trying to get value, afraid you will check river for whatever reason.
albedoa
10-26-2007, 02:10 PM
I am honestly having trouble finding a fold. He played it like a weak ace, and I've seen people donk like this with the missed FD or SD.
If he has a 2, then he did a good job at throwing us off.
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EDIT: Actually this could very well be 45/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
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Oh hey, that hand actually makes some sense.
Milky
10-26-2007, 02:13 PM
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I am honestly having trouble finding a fold. He played it like a weak ace, and I've seen people donk like this with the missed FD or SD.
If he has a 2, then he did a good job at throwing us off.
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EDIT: Actually this could very well be 45/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
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Oh hey, that hand actually makes some sense.
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Yeah once I thought of that I think it weighs this more towards a fold until you've seen him bluff missed draws... But I probably would have called in the heat of the moment.
bored
10-26-2007, 02:34 PM
I instantly call this and take a note.
The only thing that makes sense is 55/22/A2 or maybe 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
WHITEBOYAEHS
10-26-2007, 02:38 PM
whats his af?? wouldnt most villains pop 54:/images/graemlins/spade.gif: on the flop? i know i do...
Movelong
10-26-2007, 02:58 PM
I FOLD THIS
critikal
10-26-2007, 11:14 PM
A 32/12 calling out of the small blind? This is a worse ace a real lot of the time. I'd call him.
Profish2285
10-26-2007, 11:18 PM
This is a fold until you know he can do this with missed draws. Villains so rarely take this line with one pair hands. This could be a two that is afraid you will check behind. This can be 45 spades, 56 spades, 57 spades.
Jw513
10-26-2007, 11:42 PM
Please fold this. Villains that call call and then bet out are never bluffing. Could be 22/AA/A5.
I've called rivers like this and lose almost EVERY time.
Profish2285
10-26-2007, 11:44 PM
Yea I have had to call river a decent amount of times before I realized it is not profitable to do so. I would get stubborn, start cursing and ask myself what the [censored] does villain play like this? Then he shows me something that was played pretty poorly, but guess what? It was still a better hand than mine.
you've shown strength twice, villain isnt doing this with a weak A (even a 32/12 probably tries to get to a showdown as cheap as possible with that hand)
This is either a missed draw (no reads to think this is the case)or a hand that beats you
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