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Shanagian
10-26-2007, 08:48 AM
Hi , my first posted hand here /images/graemlins/wink.gif
Ive played villain before and have a note on him to be solid
So the turn opens flush draw , but I get reraised , what do you consider is the best to do here ?

I write the hand myself because I play in carbon poker and its hand history sux , dont know how to convert it

Shanagian - 25.7$ UTG A /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif
villain - 44$ UTG+1 X X

Preflop :

Shanagian raises to 1$
villain calls 1$

others fold so we are HU

Flop (pot=2.35$):

7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif A /images/graemlins/club.gif

Shanagian bets 1.7$
villain calls 1.7$

Turn (pot=5.75$):

4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Shanagian bets 3$
villain raises 9$
Shanagian ?

MJK08
10-26-2007, 09:10 AM
I would RR pre-flop here
But as played a call is better because your getting great odds
and a C/C on a non-spade river might induce a push from a weaker hand

monkeymaps
10-26-2007, 09:14 AM
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I would RR pre-flop here
But as played a call is better because your getting great odds
i C/C a non-spade river because you might induce a push from a weaker hand

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hero cant RR preflop he raised and villan called?
as played just push the turn IMO he might have made two pair or something on the turn but im not folding here and you prob have enough outs on the turn to make a push ok.
though you have zero fold equity. id either push or call the turn here.

QuietEarner
10-26-2007, 09:29 AM
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I would RR pre-flop here
But as played a call is better because your getting great odds
i C/C a non-spade river because you might induce a push from a weaker hand

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hero cant RR preflop he raised and villan called?
as played just push the turn IMO he might have made two pair or something on the turn but im not folding here and you prob have enough outs on the turn to make a push ok.
though you have zero fold equity. id either push or call the turn here.

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I think pushing is a spew, easy call with top pair and flush draw. reevaluate river.

Shanagian
10-26-2007, 04:00 PM
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I think pushing is a spew, easy call with top pair and flush draw. reevaluate river.

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Well thats what I did . Then river came K /images/graemlins/club.gif and I check-folded

yeotaJMU
10-26-2007, 04:02 PM
shove

wingchunflush
10-26-2007, 04:25 PM
I am ok with shoving on this turn, this guy seems to like hit hand we have lots of outs if we are not winning

Profish2285
10-26-2007, 04:31 PM
Its close, but if you feel that youre only good here if you hit your river flush, then the turn is a fold. Youre getting 2.95:1 here, which wont cut it for a flush draw. If you feel like you will be good here if you hit your A or Q tho, then it becomes a whole lot closer.

kurto
10-26-2007, 04:35 PM
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I am ok with shoving on this turn, this guy seems to like hit hand we have lots of outs if we are not winning

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??? If you think the guy has a hand better then ours, then we don't really have the odds to want to get it all in since we may only have 9 outs.

To suggest a push you really need to have a range of hands that you think he's going to raise on the turn here. I'm more willing to give the villain credit for 2 pair or a set here assuming he's not braindead.