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Cell40k
10-26-2007, 12:40 AM
Just checking, since an argument could be made that since he's raising 183 big blinds more you could fold, but I don't think you could ever fold here, esp at these stakes......

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com)Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

BB: $0.86
UTG: $3.90
Hero (MP): $5.05
CO: $1.50
BTN: $0.55
SB: $4.02

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.06</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.24</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $3.90 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $3.66

Flop: ($7.83) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($7.83) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($7.83) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Lego05
10-26-2007, 12:45 AM
I dunno. I dunno enough about raising and 3betting ranges at 2NL. Sorry. I know in my usual games I'm definitely folding without some read.

cooker3
10-26-2007, 12:48 AM
As a default I fold but like at 2nl I really don't know. If I have any reason to think he is a donk (bar the fact we are playing 2nl) then I call

KRE8R
10-26-2007, 01:21 AM
Even at NL2 its good to have some stats. Honestly though you could be up against anything.

kroeliewoelie
10-26-2007, 04:34 AM
I have rarely regretted folding QQ and JJ to 4bets against unknowns. I have regretted calling quite often.

br.bm
10-26-2007, 06:01 AM
It's standard at 2NL ... at tight NL10 or NL25 games it would be a standard fold though

Phildo
10-26-2007, 06:32 AM
2NL no reads this is a snap call.

IceD
10-26-2007, 09:12 AM
At 2NL call, as said. QQ+ will justify the call for me. Most people treat AJ like the rockets there.

ama0330
10-26-2007, 10:11 AM
I learnt to fold QQ preflop at 10nl, but 2nl? Hard to say. I think its probably too close for anyone here to give you a real answer. Id probably call.

ROcketRO
10-26-2007, 10:33 AM
why would it be "standard". a read would be great but at NL10 i would fold it.

doublehawk
10-26-2007, 12:54 PM
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2NL no reads this is a snap call.

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argy1182
10-26-2007, 01:38 PM
2NL...easy call
25NL and above, lean towards the fold.

Spurious
10-26-2007, 01:40 PM
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2NL...easy call
25NL and above, lean towards the fold.

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i folded that even at NL5.
200BBs is a lot of money.

At NL2 i dunno, probably call.

IceD
10-26-2007, 01:50 PM
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i folded that even at NL5.
200BBs is a lot of money.

At NL2 i dunno, probably call.

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You sure about folding it at NL5?
I've seen a lot of people pushing with KQ/KJ/Ax/Any PP at NL5. With QQ you're in front of villain's range in my eyes.

How are your thoughts?

ICMoney
10-26-2007, 02:00 PM
It is for 250bb.

Not a great overlay or anything.

I never played 2nl much, but I might snap this off about 5 times before I see I'm getting pwned.

Movelong
10-26-2007, 02:22 PM
just call. Dont fold QQ in 2nl.