I boated up on the river. How much to bet?

[poincaraux]

Bad guy hasn't gotten out of line yet. No great reads. He has $30 left, pot is $17.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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UTG: $48.75
CO: $27.40
BTN: $27.75
SB: $37.80
Hero (BB): $69.90

Pre-Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, SB calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, SB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, SB calls $2

Turn: ($7) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5

River: ($17) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets

[ajmargarine]

$11

!!

[poincaraux]

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$11

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That's my standard bet here. What do you think about shoving?

[ajmargarine]

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$11

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That's my standard bet here. What do you think about shoving?

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Actually, that's pretty sexxy and is probably a better bet and you'll get more value out of a 7 that way imo.

[poincaraux]

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$11

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That's my standard bet here. What do you think about shoving?

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Actually, that's pretty sexxy and is probably a better bet and you'll get more value out of a 7 that way imo.

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Or T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.

!!

[Khaos4k]

Zeebo's theorem. Villain never folds a full house. Push. If he doesn't have a full house, he's folding to any reasonable bet.

[KRE8R]

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Zeebo's theorem. Villain never folds a full house. Push. If he doesn't have a full house, he's folding to any reasonable bet.

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Agreed. If he has a 7 he is calling for sure.

[NL Newbie]

SHOVEEEEEEE

Oh and i check turn, what are we still beating /images/graemlins/blush.gif (without a read)

[poincaraux]

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SHOVEEEEEEE

Oh and i check turn, what are we still beating /images/graemlins/blush.gif (without a read)

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I figured I was still beating flush draws, no?

[fisherprice]

what about 11,50 or 11,75?

[HighOctane]

yuo played it fine. Just bet $5 on river for value.

[Milky]

Shoving's the best play. He'll probably call w/the 7 and maybe even a T or some other PP thinking you missed the flushdraw and are bluffing.

[HighOctane]

1/2 pot

[JoseRijo]

The question you have to ask is, "What percentage of hands is he calling a $9-11 bet with but folding to a shove?" I'm not sure there are many hands that fall into that category, so shoving is better.

[ICMoney]

All you can eat baby:

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[poincaraux]

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The question you have to ask is, "What percentage of hands is he calling a $9-11 bet with but folding to a shove?" I'm not sure there are many hands that fall into that category, so shoving is better.

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Well, I thought that pocket pairs and random tens might fit into that category. In this case, I was wrong about that.

Results:

I shoved, he tanked and called with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, evening me up for the session /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

I posted this because I almost never overbet-shove on the river. I thought this was a good time for it.

[wingchunflush]

I like a shove here as well

[kurto]

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The question you have to ask is, "What percentage of hands is he calling a $9-11 bet with but folding to a shove?" I'm not sure there are many hands that fall into that category, so shoving is better.

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Well, I thought that pocket pairs and random tens might fit into that category. In this case, I was wrong about that.

Results:

I shoved, he tanked and called with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, evening me up for the session /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

I posted this because I almost never overbet-shove on the river. I thought this was a good time for it.

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6 10 os.... I hope you adjusted your read on him.

[poincaraux]

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The question you have to ask is, "What percentage of hands is he calling a $9-11 bet with but folding to a shove?" I'm not sure there are many hands that fall into that category, so shoving is better.

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Well, I thought that pocket pairs and random tens might fit into that category. In this case, I was wrong about that.

Results:

I shoved, he tanked and called with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, evening me up for the session /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

I posted this because I almost never overbet-shove on the river. I thought this was a good time for it.

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6 10 os.... I hope you adjusted your read on him.

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The exact wording of my note is "value bet the piss out of him with anything" but he left the table before I got to play another hand with him /images/graemlins/frown.gif.