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mookboi
10-25-2007, 11:21 PM
UTG: $51.35
CO: $46.65
BTN: $49.75
SB: $20.70
Hero (BB): $56.25

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, UTG calls $3, CO calls $3

Flop: ($10.75) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG calls $9, CO calls $9

Turn: ($37.75) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $29</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $38.85 and is All-In</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $9.85

Stacks around 39 going into turn. Do we like?

mookboi
10-26-2007, 02:14 AM
Mmbump. Standard?

PaulG
10-26-2007, 09:41 AM
I don't really like the $29 turn bet into two opponents on that board. They called your flop bet on a fairly dry board and then the flush hits.

I think I'm more incline to check and see what they do, but I don't think you are ahead here.

andy099
10-26-2007, 09:44 AM
i check call any really small bet, check fold any mediunm/big bet especially as you have no diamonds in your hand

ROcketRO
10-26-2007, 10:01 AM
You could check the turn, see what happens. Now you can't get away from it.

doppelganger
10-26-2007, 10:24 AM
I agree w/ others that you have to check the turn against 2 villains. Flop was perfectly sized but once they both call and the flush hits, what are we beating?

members_only
10-26-2007, 10:52 AM
Reads would help of course...

Assuming a couple of unknowns I would do this quite often as well.

Value from Tx/random crap and protection against a 4th /images/graemlins/diamond.gif hitting vs the likelihood that with two flop callers one was on a flush draw or set... idk. Close spot I think.

bozzer
10-26-2007, 10:56 AM
reads? i'd guess its a flip whether we are better shoving or c/fing the turn.

Profish2285
10-26-2007, 10:59 AM
Against two opponents this is probably a c/f. You have to assume one of them is drawing and that draw just hit. I hate the 29 bet as you have completely committed yourself to the hand and allowed villains to play perfectly against you.

nyc999
10-26-2007, 11:02 AM
I agree with c/f. Villains are less likely to bluff against two opponents, with one showing pre-flop/flop strength and a 3-flush on the board.

members_only
10-26-2007, 11:04 AM
'and allowed villains to play perfectly against you'

What do you mean? He didn't prevent them from calling with worse hands, or drawing incorrectly to a 4th flush card or whatever.

Somnius
10-26-2007, 11:07 AM
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reads? i'd guess its a flip whether we are better shoving or c/fing the turn.

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Hard to come up with my own reply when your avatar keeps drawing me in /images/graemlins/smirk.gif...but yes, especially without reads I would check that turn.

Profish2285
10-26-2007, 11:10 AM
By allowing them to play perfectly I mean that if villain has a flush then he obviously stacks hero due to the large bet amount, but if he doesnt he can easily fold a hand that might have gotten to the river and lost at showdown. Pretty much, due to the way the hand was played, the villain could only play a flush one way, which is obviously the profitable way, which means he was forced to play it perfectly.