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BoerfSt
10-25-2007, 07:39 PM
No reads on villain. Is this OK or just donkish?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $59.70
BTN: $50
SB: $76
Hero (BB): $50
UTG: $94.25
MP: $67

Pre-Flop: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($2) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($14) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $42</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $43.50 and is All-In</font>

critikal
10-25-2007, 07:55 PM
I think it's okay to get it in. I'd probably 3-bet him on the flop though with an OESD+FD.

Ranma4703
10-25-2007, 07:57 PM
Yes it is fine, on the flop I might be pushing, if the pot was a little big I definately would be pushing. You probably just stacked 55 or 88, slight chance of losing to an overflush (since you posted the hand, I assume that is what he had), and possibly he had something like 8d7d or 6d7d.

bubaloo
10-25-2007, 08:05 PM
i wouldnt push flop, as the only hands that will call are hands that have you dominated (sets), i would however repop it to $18 (and call a shove) or if he just calls, shove any turn.

edit: actually raise a bit more, pot.

Kasane
10-25-2007, 08:10 PM
3bet/push over raise. Your hand lives or dies with fold equity.

Kasane
10-25-2007, 08:14 PM
Board: 5d Jd 8c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.236% 40.24% 00.00% 2390 0.00 { Td9d }
Hand 1: 59.764% 59.76% 00.00% 3550 0.00 { 88, 55 }

Our equity is decent against even a set.

Babalatexi
10-25-2007, 08:30 PM
The reason to 3-bet this flop is that you get villain to fold hands you're flipping with (Tp kind of hands) which is EV+ for you AND you get him to fold bigger flush draws. If he has a set, oh well, it's still 40/60. When played like this, you might get more money from mediocre hands but you're totally analed if he had a higher flush. Summa summarum, you get to fold a lot of hands that villain shouldn't fold and even if called you're a slight dog at worst when you 3-bet on the flop. Be sure to bet big enough (20+) too, you want FE.

bazooka87
10-25-2007, 08:49 PM
Definitely bet/3bet preflop and just shove any turn. Your equity is huge here and the bet/3bet line on a drawy board looks ridiculous strong combined with a turn shove

spivey
10-25-2007, 09:10 PM
Calling is fine IP, b/3b is a must OOP. As played, SHIP IT!!!!!

oh well...
10-25-2007, 09:12 PM
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The reason to 3-bet this flop is that you get villain to fold hands you're flipping with (Tp kind of hands) which is EV+ for you AND you get him to fold bigger flush draws. If he has a set, oh well, it's still 40/60. When played like this, you might get more money from mediocre hands but you're totally analed if he had a higher flush. Summa summarum, you get to fold a lot of hands that villain shouldn't fold and even if called you're a slight dog at worst when you 3-bet on the flop. Be sure to bet big enough (20+) too, you want FE.

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This is spot on. Raising ~pot on flop and shoving turn sounds optimal to me.

BoerfSt
10-25-2007, 09:13 PM
Ok thank you guys!