(NL25) Strange spot with KK on Q high board.

[vMario]

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Villain was kind of tight-passive player. I find his line to be really strong? I mean, my one pair can't be good there, something to do with Baluga's theorem? It's possible that he floated flop with AQ or something, now hit on turn and takes a donkish shot. I have pretty laggish/aggressive image ( 28/26 ) Thank you. </font>

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MP ($7.22)
CO ($4.80)
Button ($9.40)
Hero ($36.71)
BB ($30.72)
UTG ($48.11)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.95.

Flop: ($5.85) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5.

Turn: ($15.85) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $22</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $48.85

[TheChad]

what are you putting him on that you lose to?

[Jimmayjames]

I'm thinking he probably caught the queen. Pocket queens is the only thing I'd be worried about against a tight player, and I think you can call this bet/push all-in.

[TheChad]

yeah, I mean srsly. I yawn before calling and maybe take a nap during the turn/river/showdown.

[vMario]

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what are you putting him on that you lose to?

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I'm not sure to be honest, it's more like a feeling that I am no good there with my pair. Maybe he just made a bad call pf and caught a set there. Thus, queen is very possible - he could just be testing the water with his minraise, hmm.

[tjohnsonr10]

RR All in. I cant really see folding this here unless villain is super tight/passive. I think villain is raising the flop with QQ-AA pretty much every time here. I would actually be more worried about AA than QQ. I get this all in, but then again I am a station.

[Jimmayjames]

I'm still calling that. With catching a set, that is four possible hands that beat your overpair. After your $11 bet, you are POT COMMITTED with this hand!

[Jimmayjames]

BTW, if the player has AA, you are going broke a large majority of the time with KK.

[creamfillin]

Fold. A tight passive isn't coming in with a big minraise on the turn with anything you beat. Maybe AQ but I doubt he calls a pot sized bet with that on the flop.

[Jimmayjames]

IDK, sometimes, I will call flop bets with AQ on this board just because of the possibility of C-Bets and the player catching absolutely nothing. There are times that I style in with a tight/passive image, and AQ is definitely within my range of calling on that flop. :-\

[TheChad]

oh yeah, I thought he shoved the turn. I stick it in and break it off.

[Genesis]

I agree about folding, tight passives don't call that flop. They're fit or fold types. Vast majority of the time I believe he has 88, 55, 22. I'm not even sure AQ makes the call preflop that often.

[creamfillin]

I would usually let go of AQ PF against a 3B OOP let alone floating OOP with AQ high when I may not even be drawing to 3-outs.

[WhiteWolf]

You've already put half your stack in. Folding here would be a pretty exploitable tendency. Go ahead and push.

[thoman8r]

Baluga doesn't apply here. It's a re-raised pot and I'm felting this against a standard donk. I think you'll see a AQ, 99-JJ, even A8 here more than a set or AA.

[DaveTheClueless]

If your read is right this is a fold. Better be confident tho, if he's just been preoccupied with something at home and is a standard donk, you're losing money folding here.

[Lagtastic]

it looks like an easy push

[Cam5182]

Mario,

You are way behind the villain's range given his fishy line. NH sir.

[AZplaya]

I think this is fine. I probably bet around $9 if I plan on folding to a raise, this amount still gets value when we are ahead but we loose less when he makes it obvious were beat.

[Baintz]

I think you gotta reraise more preflop. You're nearly 150BBs deep, and OOP to boot. He's probably calling with all PPs hoping to bust you.

I'm not sure I could fold turn after putting more than half my stack in, though I can't see what you beat when a tight passive takes this line given your line is so strong. I guess AQ is possible if he's the floaty type, but I think a set or AA is much more likely. Highly doubt this is JJ/TT - why would he call flop then raise turn when overcard hits? This is almost never a bluff, you have more than half your stack in, and a minraise doesn't have much fold equity.

Don't think Baluga applies to reraised pots by the way.

[kurto]

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it looks like an easy push

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Really? So an obvious overpair is always worth nearly 150bb? I'm usually amused if I can stack someone with just a pair for more then 100bb.