NL10- a few tough folds; thoughts?

[youngmachetes]

villain in this hand was a pretty awful loose/passive player. he minraised frequently, and appeared to be calling 3-bets pretty light.

HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com)Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

SB: $20.40
Hero (BB): $12.60
UTG: $15.85
CO: $17.90
BTN: $10.20

Pre-Flop: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, SB calls $1

Flop: ($2.40) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.55</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.50</font>, Hero folds

Results: $5.50 Pot ($5.50 Rake)


villain in this hand was also loose/passive. i hadn't seen him get out of line thus far, and i am unsure of how he built his stack.

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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com)Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

UTG: $28.25
MP: $14.20
CO: $10.55
Hero (BTN): $10
SB: $44.50
BB: $11.80

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, SB calls $0.45, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.80</font>, Hero folds

Results: $4.70 Pot ($4.70 Rake)


i limped pf here because the initial limper was horrible. it definitely wasn't standard for me, and in retrospect i don't like it at all. i played this hand awful on all streets except the flop, imo. i think i should've flat the turn and flatted a river bet (or bet if checked to).

the main villain in this hand is unknown. what could i have done better (other than "fold pf")?

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HAND #3
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com)Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

CO: $9.85
Hero (BTN): $9.70
SB: $11.60
BB: $17.40
UTG: $4.05
MP: $17.40

Pre-Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.60) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.90</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $11.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $6.60 Pot ($6.60 Rake)

[Lego05]

Hand 1: Can't fold that. Shove it...could be KK or AQ.


Hand 2: Can't fold that either. Could be a draw or a lower 2 pair. Shove it.


Hand 3: I probably wouldn't fold this either though it does look like a good chance of a higher flush.

[creamfillin]

All these folds are horrible except maybe hand #3 is close. You are VERY exploitable if you are constantly making folds like this.

[youngmachetes]

hand 2- yes it could be a draw or lower two pair. i folded with the reasoning that if he has two pair he has to have KJ/QJ (seems kinda unlikely) and if he has a draw it's most likely a huge one. i am obv. ahead of a combo draw, but that is like the best case scenario.

hand 3- what do you think of turn? do you like raise/flat then flat river?

hand 1-he had never raised b v b before. i felt like that weighted his range more toward QQ/JJ. i don't think he is 4-betting either of them pf. he 4-bets KK i would imagine, so i only really beat AQ. maybe people are all just awful at NL10, so i should just stack off with anything. i have been struggling with that. it's like, i think i find a realistic/good range to put my opponent on and then i always wonder if i'm just giving too much credit.

[youngmachetes]

i am not constantly making folds like this. if i were than they wouldn't be "tough."

[youngmachetes]

also, is my thought process horrible? (posted above)

[youngmachetes]

another thing about hand one...what loose/passive player c/raises AQ?

[Lego05]

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hand 3- what do you think of turn? do you like raise/flat then flat river?

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I don't think it really matters. I'd probably have reraised turn though like you did.

[Lego05]

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hand 2- yes it could be a draw or lower two pair. i folded with the reasoning that if he has two pair he has to have KJ/QJ (seems kinda unlikely) and if he has a draw it's most likely a huge one. i am obv. ahead of a combo draw, but that is like the best case scenario.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

47,520 games 0.005 secs 9,504,000 games/sec

Board: Qs Kd Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.367% 54.30% 01.06% 25805 505.50 { KcQd }
Hand 1: 44.633% 43.57% 01.06% 20704 505.50 { QcQd, QcQh, QdQh, JcJh, JcJs, JhJs, AcKc, AhKh, AsKs, ATs, KhJh, KsJs, KcTc, KhTh, KsTs, QcJc, QhJh, QdTd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs, AhKc, AhKs, AsKc, AsKh, ATo, KdJc, KdJh, KdJs, KhJc, KhJs, KsJc, KsJh, KcTd, KcTh, KcTs, KhTc, KhTd, KhTs, KsTc, KsTd, KsTh, QcJh, QcJs, QdJc, QdJh, QdJs, QhJc, QhJs }

[youngmachetes]

hm i should use pokerstove more often. i didn't have KT/AK in his range when the hand was being played, but in retrospect AK should def. be in there.

[youngmachetes]

is my thought process for hand one okay?

[Lego05]

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is my thought process for hand one okay?

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It's alright. I'm not ruling out KK because of no 4bet pre-flop. He's gonna have QQ/JJ a decent amount but he's got AQ and KK too and might go a little crazy with something else cause it's a blind battle. So there's no way I'm gonna fold.

[creamfillin]

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is my thought process for hand one okay?

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leveling? I don't get it, he min-raises frequently.. calls 3-bets light.. and we're giving him credit for QJ/QQ/JJ here? not to mention it's a BLIND BATTLE. This is such a fist pump /throw a party shove.

[youngmachetes]

i wish i didn't view micro stakes poker as some super complex game where everyone is competent and they always are thinking logically. i make this [censored] so [censored] hard, when in reality it's the easiest thing ever.

[mojed]

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is my thought process for hand one okay?

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Even if your thought process was correct when you assigned a range (JJ, QQ, AQ), your action was incorrect. Even if this range is 100% spot on, JJ and QQ make 6 hands total, AQ makes 6 hands total. So there's a 50% change you're drawing to 2 outs, and there's a 50% chance he's drawing to two outs . Add in the dead money, it's plus EV to get it in.

[youngmachetes]

ugh i need to learn how to use pokerstove for other than tweaking my pf range. this is so easy. god i suck.

[drsmooth]

I would never ever fold hand 1, especially given your description. Hand 2 I don't fold either, even if I am behind I have outs becuase no way does this player have a set, at least not one that has us drawing dead. Both hands you have a strong hand on a board that will entice weaker hands to play along. I articulated that very badly but I think you will knwo what I mean.


Hand 3 I might fold but I think I play low flushes very badly.

[orlov]

hand 1:
just get it in there, he could be doing this with one pair

hand2:
your miles ahead of his range, get it in there, id probably even advocate getting it in there with bottom 2 if opponent is rly fishy.

hand3:
just fold, minbets are literally always a donks way of trying to draw cheap at a flush, and your hand doesnt rly beat any flush.

[mojed]

Don't be too hard on yourself, at least your assigning ranges. Also, I didn't stove it, it pays to remember a few numbers for equity estimations at the table:

If you think someone has a set (eg JJ for a set of jacks), there are 3 combinations of JJ they can have.

If you think someone has tptk (eg AQ on Qxx board) there are 12 combinations of AQ they could have (four aces in the deck, three queens, 4x3 = 12).

In your case, you assign AQ as part of their range, but you have two aces. So there are two aces and three queens, giving 6 combinations of ace queen.