bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL [Archive]

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yeotaJMU

10-25-2007, 12:09 AM

dont really have any reads on villain... ive played about 20 hands at this point. the first hand i saw as i opened the table i saw villian open shove his stack (about 2$ at that point) into a <.20$ pot on an A J X board and get the pot shipped when a 10 hit the turn and he had KQ. hes been limping most hands preflop and sometimes folds to a raise. anyway im tryin to figure out if i can call this bet from this particular villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-PokerStars.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($3.24)
Hero ($9.55)
SB ($3.38)
BB ($2.50)
UTG ($6.88)
MP ($6.37)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.1, 2 folds, MP calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.33) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO folds.

Turn: ($0.83) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.7, MP calls $0.70.

River: ($2.23) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP bets $5.28, Hero?.

also will accept help on any street. thanks.

Jw513

10-25-2007, 12:12 AM

This is never a bluff. I've been experimenting the stars NL5 game the past few days, and a big over bet equals nuts 99.99% of the time.

Even from this particular type of villain, I still fold.

creamfillin

10-25-2007, 12:15 AM

I think I call at 5NL against such a nutty villain. He could have missed spades here alot or two pair etc or random garbage.

yeotaJMU

10-25-2007, 12:17 AM

he called super fast on flop and turn if that helps

Khaos4k

10-25-2007, 12:26 AM

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he called super fast on flop and turn if that helps

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This usually indicates a draw.

DblBarrelJ

10-25-2007, 12:32 AM

I'm going to guess this is not a bluff. I agree with the above poster, usually snap calls during the course of a hand indicate a draw. They'll call call, catch the miracle river, and push.

If they don't they'll check the river, and you can bet and get them to fold if you have a med strength hand you're not totally crazy about showing down.

Here, I'd fold.

yeotaJMU

10-25-2007, 12:37 AM

i almost always dump anything on rivers like this the only question was because now that i have top set and i can beat everything not a straight and seems like type of villain just to shove when straight hits... thanks guys

ps i did fold