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AceofSpades
10-24-2007, 04:37 PM
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BTN: $127.90
SB: $51.85
Hero (BB): $64.70
UTG: $41.70

Pre-Flop: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2.50</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $2, UTG folds

Flop: ($5.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($13.75) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $10.50</font>, Hero calls $10.50

River: ($34.75) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $18.50</font>, Hero folds

Results: $34.75 Pot ($1.70 Rake)
BTN mucked and WON $33.05 (+$16.05 NET)

This hand makes me sick, better line please? should I call river?
prodonkey
10-24-2007, 04:38 PM
what's the plan for the river? Callling near pot on the turn seems kinda bad if you're just gonna fold the river.

Why are u not 3 betting preflop?
AceofSpades
10-24-2007, 04:39 PM
I called preflop, because limper had been open shoving two hands before for $30. Also stacks are deep
tjohnsonr10
10-24-2007, 04:40 PM
First off 3bet pre. If you for some reason dont want to 3bet pre then I would raise this flop and if you get called c/f turn.
prodonkey
10-24-2007, 04:41 PM
they are deep so u want to get really tricky and call out of position? Very bad idea. 3 bet to $8 then lead flop.

You really have no clue if he has a Q or not, all you have done is check call.
nyc999
10-24-2007, 04:46 PM
I'm not sure I understand the issue with this hand. That is a great flop for you. You've done nothing to make the villain define his hand - for all you know, he could perceive your play as a missed draw on the river. As played, I call - however, I would have 3-bet pre or c/r'd flop.
Profish2285
10-24-2007, 04:48 PM
As played I definitely call river. The only thing different on the river from the turn is that JJ just filled up, so unless you put him on JJ, you have to call. If you wanted to fold, then you can do that on the turn but I dont think thats correct either. Not to beat a dead horse but next time please 3 bet pf, bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river.
Micro Donk
10-24-2007, 04:50 PM
yea your hand is seriously underrepped, its reasonable to put you on a club draw...played like this, i think the river has to be called
Genesis
10-24-2007, 04:51 PM
What hand are we expecting to see here if we call? Is there anything we beat that would bet besides a bluff?
well named
10-24-2007, 05:01 PM
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What hand are we expecting to see here if we call? Is there anything we beat that would bet besides a bluff?

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As weak as Hero's line was, I think lots of mid pocket pairs bet for value here.
Genesis
10-24-2007, 05:06 PM
Like TT and 88 expecting calls from 9x, 88, 77, 6x and worse PPs? That's an awfully slim value bet.