combo draw gets reraised all-in

[hendal]

Villain unknown.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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SB: $11.50
BB: $2.45
Hero (UTG): $12.30
BTN: $4.90

Pre-Flop: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls $0.10, BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.30</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $11.40 and is All-In</font>

So i flopped combo, nut flusdraw and a gutshot.
But now it's villain who's gettin it allin. No FE anymore /images/graemlins/frown.gif. Fold only logical choise against unknown?

[Milky]

Yeah, I think you need to fold here. You have a great draw but you have no odds and no FE.

[Genesis]

I would fold. Not sure what he would this with, but it looks like he wants to end it quickly. If he has an overpair you are actually a favorite. Against sets and the straight you don't have odds to continue.

[orange]

raise or fold pf.

i would call after raising. raise/folding these types of hands isn't good. what did you expect him to do after you raised? not all players will just shutdown and fold or just flat call you.

[Lego05]

Raise preflop.

A played I think that this is really close...but I think I call:


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

74,250 games 0.005 secs 14,850,000 games/sec

Board: 8d 4d 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.325% 43.34% 00.99% 32179 732.50 { Ad6d }
Hand 1: 55.675% 54.69% 00.99% 40606 732.50 { 8c8h, 8c8s, 8h8s, 5c5d, 5c5h, 5d5h, 4c4h, 4c4s, 4h4s, Ac8c, Ah8h, As8s, Kd5d, Qd5d, Jd5d, 9d7d, 8c7c, 8h7h, 8s7s, 8c5c, 8h5h, 8c4c, 8h4h, 8s4s, 76s, 7d5d, 6d5d, 5c4c, 5h4h, 3d2d, Ac8h, Ac8s, Ah8c, Ah8s, As8c, As8h, 8c7d, 8c7h, 8c7s, 8h7c, 8h7d, 8h7s, 8s7c, 8s7d, 8s7h, 8c5d, 8c5h, 8h5c, 8h5d, 8s5c, 8s5d, 8s5h, 8c4h, 8c4s, 8h4c, 8h4s, 8s4c, 8s4h, 76o, 5c4h, 5c4s, 5d4c, 5d4h, 5d4s, 5h4c, 5h4s }

[Micro Donk]

raise or fold pre, i prefer raising

as played, youre getting about 1.25-1 to make the call, and against a range (of 2 pair or better, and a couple overpairs, theres just no bluffing on this board)

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.967% 41.75% 01.22% 21078 616.00 { Ad6d }
Hand 1: 57.033% 55.81% 01.22% 28180 616.00 { TT-88, 55-44, 85s-84s, 76s, 85o-84o, 76o }

i hate it but i think its a fold

[Profish2285]

I think I call too. If villain has a flush draw or overpair like EVER then I think you have to call here. Its probably so close though that either way wont make too big of a difference.

[Spurious]

Looks like a standard 2pair/set line.

I like that range btw:

8c8h, 8c8s, 8h8s, 5c5d, 5c5h, 5d5h, 4c4h, 4c4s, 4h4s, Ac8c, Ah8h, As8s, Kd5d, Qd5d, Jd5d, 9d7d, 8c7c, 8h7h, 8s7s, 8c5c, 8h5h, 8c4c, 8h4h, 8s4s, 76s, 7d5d, 6d5d, 5c4c, 5h4h, 3d2d, Ac8h, Ac8s, Ah8c, Ah8s, As8c, As8h, 8c7d, 8c7h, 8c7s, 8h7c, 8h7d, 8h7s, 8s7c, 8s7d, 8s7h, 8c5d, 8c5h, 8h5c, 8h5d, 8s5c, 8s5d, 8s5h, 8c4h, 8c4s, 8h4c, 8h4s, 8s4c, 8s4h, 76o, 5c4h, 5c4s, 5d4c, 5d4h, 5d4s, 5h4c, 5h4s


We need to narrow it down a little bit... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[AZplaya]

I would call because calling and being behind a set/straight is a much smaller mistake than folding when were against a worse draw.