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AceofSpades
10-24-2007, 04:05 PM
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $59.95
Hero (CO): $50
BTN: $33.20
SB: $142.55
BB: $93.90
UTG: $55.05

Pre-Flop: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $15</font>, Hero folds

Results: $15.25 Pot ($0.75 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $14.50 (+$7 NET)

Lego05
10-24-2007, 04:07 PM
You don't have any reads or even stats on this guy and you want to shove over his flop donk/3bet with A high?


Yea...I'd say that's a leak.

PietM
10-24-2007, 04:10 PM
Minbets (or small bets) are (usually) either drawing/I-hit-bottom-pair kinda hands, or monsters. A raise lets the drawing hands pay, but I think you ran into a Ten here...

ajmargarine
10-24-2007, 04:10 PM
Ya, def leak. Just fold and give him credit.

If you were the first to bet, he raises on a paird flop, that's more of the spot you are looking for.

Ranma4703
10-24-2007, 04:11 PM
Yes. I used to do this, you rationalize it to yourself by saying he's just pushing you around, you have to stand up to him because there is no way he has a ten, and yet every time he has one. There are not even any draws out there. You are [censored]. Hardcore, anal, buttfucked. Fold. I like the flop raise, as long as you don't do it every time someone weakly donks into you.

PietM
10-25-2007, 02:06 AM
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I like the flop raise, as long as you don't do it every time someone weakly donks into you.

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If I'm the preflop raiser and a donk weakly bets into me, I raise close to 100%. Is that a leak?

Schiester
10-25-2007, 02:25 AM
I'm with you on most boards, but this is as dry as it gets as far as draws go... Who am I kidding, I'm always raising the flop here.

You may even get rid of some lower pps that are ahead of you at this stage.

PietM
10-25-2007, 02:27 AM
I see quite some players (not the very good ones) do this with a three, or 55,66,77,88. You'd like them to fold indeed.

Lego05
10-25-2007, 04:02 AM
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I like the flop raise, as long as you don't do it every time someone weakly donks into you.

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If I'm the preflop raiser and a donk weakly bets into me, I raise close to 100%. Is that a leak?

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No...I do that most of the time too. In my experience they fold a ton.

bazooka87
10-25-2007, 04:51 AM
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I like the flop raise, as long as you don't do it every time someone weakly donks into you.

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If I'm the preflop raiser and a donk weakly bets into me, I raise close to 100%. Is that a leak?

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Ehh I don't do it close to 100%, but I do it very very often, not a leak at all.
Umm Yeti theorem?

traz
10-25-2007, 10:24 AM
This is definitely a yeti spot, but I wouldn't run with it against an unknown 50nler