50NL AA v. 4

[joseki]

First orbit. There has been a lot of calling so far. What you think?

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Button ($21.40)
SB ($44.60)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($24.45)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($46.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($153.95)</font>
CO ($27.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13.5</font>, MP calls $13.50, SB folds, BB calls $10.

Turn: ($48.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $8.95 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

[thoman8r]

I fold. What are you beating here?

[Profish2285]

Its a fold as the most disgusting turn card just came out and you got pushed into. You had two callers on the flop so assuming at least one of them has a jack is probably a safe assumption to make.

[Xanta]

I'm never ever folding this getting 5:1 on my money. It's a crying call. You don't even need 20% equity against his range here.

Edit: nvm, with fullstacked MP behind us, we can fold this pretty easily, misread hand.

[RedSoxFan]

I'd call.

You're getting 6.5:1 to call

You're betting QQ,KK, maybe even counterfeited 2 pair, and someone excited about a flush draw that they just got.

You also have MP left to act so if you're beat by BB, probably ahead of MP and can get something from him.

[Profish2285]

Yea if MP had folded on the flop then you can make this call getting those odds as Im sure youre ahead often often to make this call profitable. However, MP did call so this is a clear fold.

[bazooka87]

Really sucks but I'm probably folding as well, if you didn't have MP behind you it'd be way closer

[joseki]

Is it worth continuing if we think BB has some jackass J and MP has KK/QQ much of the time? The bloated pot might commit those big pairs? Wishful thinking?

[Profish2285]

Unless MP is a complete moron he isnt putting in more money with KK/QQ here once you raise the turn bet which you would have to to get his money into the side pot. Besides, I think MP has KK/QQ here like never seeing the line he took upto this point.

[RedSoxFan]

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Is it worth continuing if we think BB has some jackass J and MP has KK/QQ much of the time? The bloated pot might commit those big pairs? Wishful thinking?

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That was my thought- if you call and MP comes over the top, I'd get out of there.

[Profish2285]

No offense but thats a horrible move. Why are u putting MP on KK/QQ here ever? How many villains cold call a raise pf with KK/QQ? I dont think you get MP's money anywhere close to often enough to make this call profitable to be honest.