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Lostit
10-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Another hand with Guldfeldt last night (78/24/3.5).

Basically the pattern here is that Guldfeldt will call ANY preflop raise if there are 2 people already in the pot. The only time he folds is to a 4-bet, or occasionally in an unopened pot, early position.

My play here is that I have a monster, KK, and I want him in the hand to pad the pot, and barring an Ace on the flop, I'm going to spring the trap there. One additional factor here is that the stacks are deep.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $97.20
SB: $51.75
BB: $56.30
UTG: $276.50
MP: $50
CO: $50.35

Pre-Flop: K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $10, UTG calls $9

Flop: ($30.75) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $266.50 and is All-In</font>, MP folds, Hero??[/i]

Another $87 to call here. Previously I haven't seen Guldfeldts big bets to be bluffs. I used up all my time meter on this, and saw villain openly claiming he had 99 here, as if that means anything.

Lastly, 99, 22, 33, 92, 93, &amp; 23 are WELL within the villains range, even with a $10 preflop call. I saw much worse out of him last night. (But so is the flush draw)

Basically the question is, if you set a trap like this, and hit a seemingly dry board, do you spring the trap anyway in the face of such aggression?

RedSoxFan
10-24-2007, 10:51 AM
From my experience seeing this- it's not usually a monster (but against this dude, he could have 92), but more like A9 or K9 trying to force out the flush draw.

I think I snap call here hoping I am ahead of his crap.

thoman8r
10-24-2007, 10:53 AM
Easiest call ever.

Villain will have trash, 1 pair, or a draw a lot more than a set.

Seriously I don't understand what kind of flop you were hoping for. An overpair is practically the nuts against this guy. If he woke up with a set, it's just bad luck.

derosnec
10-24-2007, 10:56 AM
people don't open push with a better hand here (ok once in a billion times they might).

prodonkey
10-24-2007, 10:56 AM
I call with a fist pump and scream no club!

nyc999
10-24-2007, 10:57 AM
Are 92, 93 and 23 well within the villain's pf raising range (24% according to your stats)? That seems unlikely.

It also seems unlikely to open-push with a set, as opposed to some other pp or top pair. I make the call here.

corsakh
10-24-2007, 10:58 AM
Which obviously changes to "One more club, more club!" on the turn /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

prodonkey
10-24-2007, 10:59 AM
undoubtedly

Lostit
10-24-2007, 12:01 PM
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Are 92, 93 and 23 well within the villain's pf raising range (24% according to your stats)? That seems unlikely.

It also seems unlikely to open-push with a set, as opposed to some other pp or top pair. I make the call here.

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Those hands are DEFINITELY in his range. He stacked me a little while later when I had AA re-raised to $7 preflop, he called with 27os (No Lie), caught one 2 on the flop, called a pot sized bet, then another 2 on the turn, and then of course called my shove.

He also stacked my AA all in preflop with K8os. Stacked my AK all in preflop with AJos, 3-way for a $250 pot. Stacked my KK on the flop with QJ, and went runner, runner with to make a straight. He stacked Darth Canada all in preflop AA versus A10 by making a straight.

This guy was a true gem, the only problem was the FTP dealer liked him a little more than I liked him.

prodonkey
10-24-2007, 12:04 PM
if he's calling raises with 72o.. and all in with k8o.. why aren't u reraising preflop?

AZplaya
10-24-2007, 12:06 PM
meh Guldfeldt is fairly passive postflop, I cant ever remember seeing him open shove like this. I'd probably call but it definitly wouldn't be with a double fist pump. Pretty high variance call here imo.

traz
10-24-2007, 12:11 PM
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meh Guldfeldt is fairly passive postflop, I cant ever remember seeing him open shove like this. I'd probably call but it definitly wouldn't be with a double fist pump. Pretty high variance call here imo.

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I really can't imagine a better situation than this

Lostit
10-24-2007, 12:28 PM
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if he's calling raises with 72o.. and all in with k8o.. why aren't u reraising preflop?

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I didn't see this pattern until after the hand in question. This hand occurred about 1 hour into a 6-7 hour session. I did start re-raising him more preflop, he kept calling with junk, and he kept catching cards.

directscooter
10-24-2007, 12:44 PM
Basically everyone has stated everything I wanted to say about this hand, it is almost always a call for me but there is one other small factor that I take into consideration here.
This is the guy we are at the table for, and he has a huge stack. We have a chance here (a really good chance imo) to double up and then play with equal stacks against him going forward, allowing us to get more of his $$$ quicker. We all know these players and most of the time he is leaving with nothing so why not give yourself the best chance to take his entire stack. I am not saying get into large -EV spots, but I would be much more willing to coin flip to get a larger stack.