50nl 6max vs 28/24/5/2300 hands

[meleader2]

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $48.25
UTG: $45.60
MP: $55.35
CO: $94.65
BTN: $109.75

Pre-Flop: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.75</font>, BB folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($12) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $19.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $43.75 and is All-In</font>




just a yay or nay?

[Micro Donk]

im assuming you had reads?

[whiteladder81]

nay

[meleader2]

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im assuming you had reads?

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holy crap......the reads are the stats. can u ignore a 2300 hand sample?!

[whyzze]

just because his stats are crazy doesn't mean he never has a hand. Just drop it after he raises your flop bet. This is spew and this is how 24/28s make money. they play crazy and get paid.

[Khumalo]

Nay, but I change it to a Yay if you do it with something that has at least 6 outs (and maybe a backdoor draw for good luck!) -- or TT, which, unlike 66, puts just enough of a hurtin' on his calling range (namely, that part of it that contains 9x hands that feel committed and cry-call) that I feel better about your total equity when bet/3-betting this spot.

[ronitonline]

This is 1010/JJ most of the time.
Fold flop unless you've seen him do this with AQ/AK more then once.

[Esection]

i dont think he ever folds your flop raise and his range is crushing yours

NAY

[ICMoney]

Nay.

He has a draw with overs at the worst.

His range crushes you.

[Bren]

Why underbet the pot on the flop?

[prodonkey]

neigh

[corsakh]

What do you think you doing? You think he is folding 1 to 3?

[ROcketRO]

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nay

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QFT

[meleader2]

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This is 1010/JJ most of the time.
Fold flop unless you've seen him do this with AQ/AK more then once.

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so let me get this right. you're telling me that you are folding 100% to this flop 2bet WITHOUT QQ, KK, or AA here? if so...then...wow.

and what is "most of the time"?

[meleader2]

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Nay, but I change it to a Yay if you do it with something that has at least 6 outs (and maybe a backdoor draw for good luck!) -- or TT, which, unlike 66, puts just enough of a hurtin' on his calling range (namely, that part of it that contains 9x hands that feel committed and cry-call) that I feel better about your total equity when bet/3-betting this spot.

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i'll never have a 6-outter hand here 3betting pre vs a player like this. 54o/s and 67o/s has no equity pre vs this guy, and on the flop (except for above)

T9o+ though, yeah.

given that i'll never have that 3betting him pre, and now he's 2betting me for pot MINUS my bet, i do not feel like i'm much of a dog putting it in here.

[meleader2]

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Nay.

He has a draw with overs at the worst.

His range crushes you.

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this is the only argument that's valid here. i'm assuming ur saying this because of the flop raise, and i'd agree with you, if the following 2 conditions were true (maybe even only 1):

the flop texture was different, even only slightly:

9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2x

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his stats were 28/24/1/2300

[corsakh]

Wait wait.. What does prelop equity had to do with 3betting light unless the villain is a calling station or a 14/10 with 14 att to steal?

[meleader2]

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Wait wait.. What does prelop equity had to do with 3betting light unless the villain is a calling station or a 14/10 with 14 att to steal?

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i never stated this was a light 3bet. it's for value.

[corsakh]

66 OOP - for value?

This is top 50 from poker stove. I'm sure he is a little tight from CO.

Hand 0: 55.094% 54.66% 00.43% 3543729636 27898164.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 44.906% 44.48% 00.43% 2883256980 27898164.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }