My Won $ W/O Showdown is still abysmal: 6 hands (50 NL) [Archive]

derosnec

10-21-2007, 12:48 PM

according to PokerEV, my w$w/o showdown is horrific. and this is despite my efforts lately to win more pots postflop.

i filtered PokerEV for hands that did not go to showdown. most of these villians are not TAGs or maniacs (usually like 30ish or 40ish VPIP and teens for PFR and lowish AF)

if you see any pattern in my play that is bad, let me know

Hand 1

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($50.85)
Hero ($75.95)
BB ($52.85)
UTG ($26.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, BB raises to $15.5, Hero calls $9.25.

River: ($41) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $32.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Hand 2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($36.85)
UTG ($133.45)
MP ($32.50)
Hero ($89.05)
SB ($11.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP calls $2.50.

Flop: ($6.75) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $5, MP calls $5.

Turn: ($16.75) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $10.5, MP calls $10.50.

River: ($37.75) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $14 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $23.75

Hand 3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($51.15)
MP ($50)
CO ($37.55)
Button ($44.65)
Hero ($138.15)
BB ($22.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($6.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, Button calls $4.50.

Turn: ($15.50) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9.5, Button calls $9.50.

River: ($34.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $27.65 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $6.85

Hand 4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($21.40)
Hero ($63.05)
SB ($48.50)
BB ($22.65)
UTG ($91.70)
MP ($20.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4.5, SB calls $4.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($15) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10.

River: ($35) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $32 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3

Hand 5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($248.55)
Button ($50.40)
SB ($49.25)
BB ($48.30)
Hero ($41)
MP ($31.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, MP calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $9, MP calls $9.

River: ($29.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $17, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $29.75

Hand 6 (this one is kinda gross in retrospect - villian is multitabling tag)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($66.25)
MP ($78)
CO ($45)
Hero ($81.85)
SB ($38.50)
BB ($38.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($12.75) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $9.5, MP raises to $72, Hero folds.

corsakh

10-21-2007, 12:56 PM

I don't get H1. Whats your intention of calling on the turn. I don't think 45 is a big part of his range.

I don't like two barrel in hand 5. I need a strong read to do it.

Hand 6 is gross. I am not folding this against no one, tag or lag or Mr Bush.

derosnec

10-21-2007, 12:58 PM

we're 150bbs deep in Hand 6

corsakh

10-21-2007, 01:09 PM

I really don't think 150 is deep enough to worry about this sort of things. But I like bigger 3bets when I'm in 130-170 range.

Back to the board, a paired flop really reduces his chances to hold a set and increases the bluffing frequency by a ton. Add coordination, rags and a flush draw - you get the picture. If he is bad enough to play a 6 this way preflop - you should know this by now. If your wrong, you have a 3bi deep fish to you right. Sweet.

10-21-2007, 01:11 PM

drop some levels and play 34/30/8 style, stealing like 45 or 50%. That`s what I did, and it helped. I ran at 20ptbb/100 over about 2k hands btw /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Profish2285

10-21-2007, 01:41 PM

Dont fold hand one or six.