Building a bankroll at micro NL?

[stopcensoringme]

This will sound absurd, but I'd like to get a little advice on building a bankroll playing .01/.02 NL on stars.

Mainly I'm concerned with what type of win rates people see at these stakes.

Here's the absurd part. About 6-12 months ago I was decent winner in the $1-2, $2-4 NL games. I ran about 5.5 PTBB/100 over ~ 150,000 hands. For various reasons I withdrew my money and reserved ~ $5,000 for playing poker. Life happened and I didn't play at all for the past 6 months or so.

Now, I still have this $5,000 and I could get it online and just jump back into .5/1 or something, but since it's been forever since I played I'm considering just building a roll from nothing.

I had some stars FPPs and played 70fpp sngs, won one, used the T$ to play $2 HU sngs, and now have a little over $12 in my account.

So, any estimate on how long to get a roll of ~ $250 so I can play NL 25 and start to work on a real roll?

Feel free to make fun of the plan, but if anyone has experience at this level please let me know what kind of winrates are possible.

Thanks

[CashMoney1995]

games are too tough post legislation to have a big winrate.

[PJo336]

If u wanna be serious about this id start by putting in about 500 bucks and playing .10/.25 nl. Its a good spot to start learning and its not a large portion of ur 5k. Post hands here and engage in convos about everthing u dont understand

i really dont recommend starting so low especially when u have money to start much higher

[Dr_Doctr]

If you really were a decent winner at NL200/400 you wouldn't have forgotten how to play and would also know the answer to the questions you asked.

[Jw513]

Wait... why do you want to start from scratch? Youre a 5.5ptbb winner at NL200, NL400 and you want to start again at the bottom? If you're rusty and need to get back into your game, why not just start from NL50? Having a 5k roll and starting back at .01/.02 NL is just a waste of time. I highly doubt you would learn anything from there.

I would reccomend you play NL50 for a few thousand hands, and see if you can still beat it. Then move up/down if needed.

[Dr_Doctr]

This thread is ridiculous

[Jw513]

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If you really were a decent winner at NL200/400 you wouldn't have forgotten how to play and would also know the answer to the questions you asked.

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Pretty much what I was thinking.

[AZplaya]

lol @ beating NL$200/$400 for 5.5BB's/100 over 100K+ hands and then starting this thread.

[stopcensoringme]

I'm not looking to learn the game. It's more a matter of there's a lot of unknowns in my life right now and rather not put the 5K in play. If it's going to take 6 months to make it NL 25 or NL 50, where I feel I can grind a real roll in a decent amount of time, then it's not worth it. If it takes me 3 weeks, not so bad.

I only mentioned my past play to give you an idea of what my skill level was back then.

I'm not starting down here to learn the game over. I'd simply like to minimize my risk wrt to the 5K. I have a real job, and I'm not in a spot I need to make a bunch of money quickly. Before we get into a discussion over whether or not I'm making this up, why would I? My wife and I recently had a baby who was born with some health problems. That's why I'd rather not put the 5K in play right now.

So, does anyone have a serious estimate of what kind of win rate is possible at the smallest micro stakes?

[TTStrangler]

I'm a total beginner, was even more clueless from 0 - 2000 hands. My winrate at NL2 is/was (have moved up to NL5) 12BB/100 over 7500 hands

EDIT: On stars

[Khaos4k]

Start at 50NL. The 2cent games will be a waste of your time.

[teh_minbet_pokr]

i'd say play on full tilt so you can at least get rakeback if you are bankroll building

[TTStrangler]

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i'd say play on full tilt so you can at least get rakeback if you are bankroll building

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Plus at stars FPP are impossible to accumulate playing at the low/low micros. At this rate, it will be almost impossible for me to get the first time deposit bonus.

[Pussy Galore]

listen lover boy i play 02/05 on ps. bring your 5k down so we can play some.i'll even sign a waiver saying if i win 10.00 from u i'll give half back.come on ante up.

[stopcensoringme]

maybe I'll just stick with $2 HU sngs. Account now up to $16.

Thanks to the couple people that responded seriously. I may just deposit $500 and play NL 25. I'm sort of a BR nit, and like I said I don't really want to risk much of the 5K.

[finalboarder]

If you start on .01/.02 I'd say that it's pretty easy to beat the games for 30+bb/100hands.

[Pussy Galore]

i didn't your reply about the baby your wife just had. hope the child gets better. on sept 1 with just 22.00 dollars i started 2 play 01/02 on ps. i don't play every day and when i do its only 4 about 3-4 hours.by the end of the month i had about 100. i moved up 2 the 02/05 in oct and after 2 day i have a little over 200.i don't keep track of winrates etc,i play the 6 max tables usually 4 at a time i just play abc poker at that level. i use position and when i enter a pot i play it aggro. i might also add i'm usually drunk so u should b able 2 shred those games. gl

[corsakh]

Take two gren and play 50nl. Fish is no different.
And don't play on Stars.

[Pussy Galore]

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Take two gren and play 50nl. Fish is no different.
And don't play on Stars.

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and why not play on stars

[BevillTheDevil]

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lol @ beating NL$200/$400 for 5.5BB's/100 over 100K+ hands and then starting this thread.

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[Bigka79]

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If you start on .01/.02 I'd say that it's pretty easy to beat the games for 30+bb/100hands.

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lol ok, how many hands u have in ur dbase, 300?

[starvingsteve]

I've been playing for about a week on stars at .01/.02, and the games are pretty easy, the players are pretty straightforward and if you were the winner you said, I'm going to agree with everyone else and say deposit more money and start at a higher level. Even if the play is marginally better, it's still going to be pretty bad.

gl

[CashMoney1995]

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If you start on .01/.02 I'd say that it's pretty easy to beat the games for 30+bb/100hands.

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lol ok, how many hands u have in ur dbase, 300?

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i've never played 1c2c, but i imagine you could beat it for 20ptbb really easily. Aren't they all like half retarded and don't care and stuff? why does anyone play these games?

[creamfillin]

graphs plz

[orlov]

I had 50ptbb/100 at NL2 fullring at everest over 2500 hands. And I was 8tabling that.

Id recommend 10max over 6max at that lvl since at 10max your bighands get paid off by 9ppl instead of by 5.(altough im sure theres some good reasons why 6max>10max at this lvl that i cant think of)

[Gelin1]

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I had 50ptbb/100 at NL2 fullring at everest over 2500 hands. And I was 8tabling that.

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So, you were running goot over like 3 sessions.

op, I'm a real bankroll nit and have played NL2 now for like 2 months with a ptbb/100 of 19 over 40k hands. Put ~$300 together and have recently moved up to NL10.

I have played at NL25 before, but needed the money and cashed out. This time I started with a free $10 I got when signing up and I don't mind the challenge of grinding with pennies to get back. Probably wouldn't start at NL2 if I could beat NL200/NL400 though