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Hail Eris
10-20-2007, 10:46 PM
Villain is 16/14/3.2 over a small sample, but was playing looser at the time. I'm running like 23/19/3. He has 3bet me a couple of times in this spot, and I'm beginning to suspect that he's doing it light.

Basically, I feel if he has a flush it's like KKd or QQd, which definitely don't always bet the flop. However, when he does have air, he's obviously betting this flop 100% of the time, and the river is such an obvious card to bluff that folding seems very weak.

Should I be betting the turn? I think he continues with AK/JJ/AA/99 every time on this turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($88.90)
SB ($148.85)
BB ($15.50)
UTG ($51.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9.

Turn: ($32.50) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($32.50) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $17</font>, Hero calls $17.

Final Pot: $66.50

Bantam222
10-21-2007, 01:14 AM
Why aren't we just betting the turn to make him fold his KK/QQ and not give him a chance to hit a flush...even if he does have KK/QQ there is a 50% he has you beat now.


I fold here...even if he would bluff this card you are still crushed by his range.

Hail Eris
10-21-2007, 01:57 AM
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Why aren't we just betting the turn to make him fold his KK/QQ and not give him a chance to hit a flush...even if he does have KK/QQ there is a 50% he has you beat now.


I fold here...even if he would bluff this card you are still crushed by his range.

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I don't see how I'm crushed by his range if his range includes air. In fact I think the fact that he bet the flop weights his range a little further toward air, since KK/QQ sometimes checks this flop, but air never does.

I mean, what else can he have? He's never got a non-flush hand that beats me, because even if he's sick enough to valuebet it on this river, I doubt he'd check the turn with anything better than AQ.

And even if his range is just KK/QQ and he's not 3betting me light, it's clearly still profitable to call so long as he often bluffs the ones with no diamond.

I agree that I should definitely be betting the turn though. I'm just used to playing pot control in spots like this.