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losingdonkey
10-20-2007, 02:13 PM
villain is 30/4/2 after 150 hands. I couldn't put him on a hand. What is his range when he calls the turn? Is this a fold on the river?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $10.60
UTG: $10.95
MP: $6.35
CO: $39.35
Hero (BTN): $19.60
SB: $5.20

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.55) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.55) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50

River: ($12.55) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $10</font>

losingdonkey
10-20-2007, 02:24 PM
bump imo

kroeliewoelie
10-20-2007, 02:41 PM
looks like AcJc.

losingdonkey
10-20-2007, 02:42 PM
thanks for the brilliant insight kroelie

argy1182
10-20-2007, 02:47 PM
Tough to lay down, but considering the stack to pot ratio from the beginning of the hand until now, looks like your overpair probably won't hold up. Slight possibility he bluffed a busted straight draw, but don't put that at more than about 10 percent. Overall, calling is probably -EV. Can't see any real faults in your play of the hand. Drive on.

kroeliewoelie
10-20-2007, 02:51 PM
Don't know if you are being sarcastic, but I just can't see a hand here that you beat that plays this way. If he had a one pair hand he liked very much, he probably would have gotten active on the turn.

Bigka79
10-20-2007, 02:55 PM
i think u have to fold this hand. it doesnt seem like we beat much. AJ is the only hand i can think of that we beat here. and thats assuming AJ isnt clubs

fold i think and next hand

kroeliewoelie
10-20-2007, 02:57 PM
argy what on earth do you mean by "considering stack to pot ratio we are beat"? (i have not read PNL)

finalboarder
10-20-2007, 03:02 PM
I was under the impression that SPRs determine how hard it will be to play a certain hand postflop. Not how often you are beat.

ICMoney
10-20-2007, 03:54 PM
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I was under the impression that SPRs determine how hard it will be to play a certain hand postflop. Not how often you are beat.

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My book is still on my shelf, unread.

From what I gathered those ratios are how much of your stack you can put in before you are committed to the hand.

I think it was for on the flop and turn more than calling a river bet.

Haven't read it yet so take it FWIW.

argy1182
10-27-2007, 10:01 AM
stack to pot ratios are generally used to manage risk versus reward. they allow you to start planning for big pots as soon as you get your cards and develop a commitment strategy rather than reacting to others' plays. the very basics are as follows-
STP = smaller remaining stack (that's what you're playing for) divided by the current pot. The higher that number is, the better your hand must be to win in an all-in situation.
In reply to FinalBoarder, you can examine STPs to approximate ranges of your opponents just as you would apply them to your own play. Example: With a high STP, you shouldn't expect your opponent to get all in with TPTK.

Reference Professional NL Holdem V1