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paoul
10-19-2007, 11:36 PM
i had no reads. i thought this was a good fold at the time now i think it was awful.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $14.95
SB: $3.90
Hero (BB): $10
UTG: $11.55
CO: $14

Pre-Flop: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $1.10</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.80 and is All-In</font>, 2 folds

Results: $3.10 Pot ($0.30 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $2.80 (+$1.60 NET)

jerryf1914
10-19-2007, 11:41 PM
i think it was a good fold. that hand isn't good with that flop and 2 people betting like that. i always lose when i have 45 on that board.

castigar
10-19-2007, 11:45 PM
Way too weak. You can't fold a flopped straight on a non mono board. And of the story.

Lego05
10-19-2007, 11:54 PM
Yea...you aren't gonna win an overwhelming amount of the time I don't think....but I think it's +ev to get it in here. You certainly should have at least gotten it in vs. sb. So instead of folding I woulda shoved.

DblBarrelJ
10-19-2007, 11:56 PM
Tough call. Part of me wants to push here, hoping to isolate SB, but then again, I'm not sure of the probability of UTG folding.

Thats a pretty tough call with no reads, I'd feel much more comfortable with some type of range for UTG.

I don't really know what to think of SB, this:

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<font color="red"> SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG raises to $1.10, SB raises to $3.80 and is All-In </font>

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doesn't make sense.

The mini-bet/push seems weak, so I think our hand is good against SB, but without reads on UTG, I'm unsure. Why wouldn't SB just go for a c/r instead of that. It smells of a desperation bluff.

Basically, I push if I think UTG will fold and fold if I think UTG will call my push or reraise me AI after I call SB's push. I don't see UTG calling off a 100bb+ stack against 2 opponents without T9.

Chxdgt
10-19-2007, 11:58 PM
I probably shove here... it's true that you have the "sucker" side of the straight, but I have a hard time giving villain credit for the one hand that's ahead of you. More likely you've got the best hand and you're up against a straight or flush draw. You're approximately a coin-flip against a nightmare draw like A/images/graemlins/spade.gif9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, so I get it in here.

Of course, there's the short stack... but I shove this flop against a shorty all day /images/graemlins/smile.gif

cooker3
10-20-2007, 12:06 AM
Go broke please. So many combo draws and sets that you beat

Kasane
10-20-2007, 01:28 AM
Yup, folding is weak here. You can push once shorty does. Shorty can have anything from a bare draw, to a one pp hand. UTG is likely to have something, but he could even have top set or AKs draw and you're equity wise fine. T9 is the one hand that you're afraid of, and that's way down on the curve.

This was a bad, bad fold. You many have had something like 80%+ equity (note: calc partly based on results).

Peleus
10-20-2007, 01:31 AM
Please never fold here again.

You're folding with the 2nd nuts. Thats called seeing monsters under the bed.

Sets and over pairs act like this at 10nl as well.

Lego05
10-20-2007, 01:32 AM
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Please never fold here again.

You're folding with the 2nd nuts. Thats called seeing monsters under the bed.

Sets and over pairs act like this at 10nl as well.

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3rd nuts actually....but yea, still

thing85
10-20-2007, 01:40 AM
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ICMoney
10-20-2007, 03:58 AM
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Was wondering when this was going to come in handy.

I suck it up and call.

Waingro
10-20-2007, 05:01 AM
I donīt think I have ever folded a two card straight with no boat or flush possible. And to a random short stack who has one pair or a draw almost always. This has got to be the worst fold of the day at uNL.

RockRattler
10-20-2007, 06:17 AM
yep - this is not good. You have the third nuts and you will see lots of sets and two pairs here.