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cashstrapped
10-19-2007, 01:42 PM
Im allways going broke here right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CO ($53.55)
Button ($49.25)
Hero ($79)
BB ($175.70)
UTG ($53.70)
MP ($80.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/5s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/5h.gif.
UTG raises to $2</font>, 3 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/5d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/tc.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/8h.gif (3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4.5</font>, Hero calls $4.50, BB folds.

Turn: ($15) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/4h.gif (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG bets $11</font>, Hero raises to $30</font>, UTG raises to $47.2</font>, Hero calls $17.20.

River: ($109.40) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/7s.gif (2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $109.40

PJo336
10-19-2007, 01:43 PM
I would raise the flop but if he had a higher set, yes nothing u can do

If it was a straight, a flop raise could have kept that from occurring

cashstrapped
10-19-2007, 01:47 PM
My reason for flat calling flop was that i think a lot of the time with him raising UTG hes going to have 2 big cards so i didnt want to scare away AK AQ etc.
Is the flat call here really that bad?

RedSoxFan
10-19-2007, 02:09 PM
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My reason for flat calling flop was that i think a lot of the time with him raising UTG hes going to have 2 big cards so i didnt want to scare away AK AQ etc.
Is the flat call here really that bad?

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I think this is a good line. if villain is aggro- i'll donk bet hoping for a reraise. Call the rr and check push turn.

As played, I like getting as much $$$ in the middle on the turn. If he has a higher set- well, f-it and reload.

Think you played hand fine IMO.

Hail Eris
10-19-2007, 02:12 PM
Just lead the flop to trap BB.

cashstrapped
10-19-2007, 02:13 PM
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Just lead the flop to trap BB.

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What am i trapping that hits that board?

bored
10-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Lead flop and either b/3b or call/CRAI turn.

Yes, you are always going broke here.

checktheriver
10-19-2007, 02:25 PM
I like to check/call the flop here, if Villain is aggro and an overcard comes on the turn, you might get another street of value from him by c/raising a second barrel. This flop is so dry that a check/raise screams that you have a set imo. For the same reasons I don't like to lead unless you have a read that either one of them will call you light.
I'm not sure whether a lead or a c/r is better on this turn ?
Oh and obviously nothing you can do if you're up against a higer set, Villain might go broke with an overpair here.

cashstrapped
10-19-2007, 02:39 PM
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I like to check/call the flop here, if Villain is aggro and an overcard comes on the turn, you might get another street of value from him by c/raising a second barrel. This flop is so dry that a check/raise screams that you have a set imo. For the same reasons I don't like to lead unless you have a read that either one of them will call you light.
I'm not sure whether a lead or a c/r is better on this turn ?
Oh and obviously nothing you can do if you're up against a higer set, Villain might go broke with an overpair here.

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Exactly what i was thinking on the flop.

WhiteWolf
10-19-2007, 02:41 PM
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My reason for flat calling flop was that i think a lot of the time with him raising UTG hes going to have 2 big cards so i didnt want to scare away AK AQ etc.
Is the flat call here really that bad?

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Not horrible, but I think you're taking the wrong strategy. You have a monster, you should be thinking about how to stack overpairs, not concentrating on trying to induce 2- and 3-street bluffs from UI overcards (especially when out of position).

And yeah, I go bust here too.

cashstrapped
10-19-2007, 02:50 PM
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My reason for flat calling flop was that i think a lot of the time with him raising UTG hes going to have 2 big cards so i didnt want to scare away AK AQ etc.
Is the flat call here really that bad?

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Not horrible, but I think you're taking the wrong strategy. You have a monster, you should be thinking about how to stack overpairs, not concentrating on trying to induce 2- and 3-street bluffs from UI overcards (especially when out of position).

And yeah, I go bust here too.

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Out of everyone that disagreed with my play that comment makes most sense.
Anyway im off out now so thanks for the discussion guys.

Hail Eris
10-19-2007, 02:56 PM
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Just lead the flop to trap BB.

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What am i trapping that hits that board?

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A bunch of draws, any Ten, and likely even less. UTG may raise with air. It's also the line that makes it easiest to stack UTG if he has an overpair, which is really what you're hoping for in this hand.

Anyway, once you c/c the flop, at least lead the turn. Board's gotten drawier, your line doesn't really look super strong, and there's no reason to expect him to double barrel air or whatever you're trying to do here.