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ScarfaceGER
10-19-2007, 11:41 AM
hi
vallain is 44/2.4/0.56!! over 42 hands.
I called this hand from oop because the openraiser played 55/43/2 over 80 hands is this ok???

OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) by Hand Converter CG (http://www.softforpoker.com/handconverter/)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($45.60)</font>
MP ($44.75)
Button ($55.50)
SB ($5.85)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($58.85)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50, MP folds.

Flop: ($6.75) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4, Button folds.

Turn: ($14.75) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

0.56 af+rerais=monster??
right or false

mr.spam
10-19-2007, 12:26 PM
Fold preflop.

Genesis
10-19-2007, 12:42 PM
I would fold preflop too. On the turn I think it's safe to say you are up against at least trip Ks. His range is something like 33, 66, KQ, KJ, KT, K9s, maybe smaller suited Ks.

It's close

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.657% 28.91% 11.74% 1374 558.00 { KJo }
Hand 1: 59.343% 47.60% 11.74% 2262 558.00 { 66, 33, K9s+, KTo+ }


In the end you'll be calling $30 to win $63. So that looks good. But he's also more likely to be pushing the better part of the range based on his aggression. I think it's close and probably doesn't matter in the long run.

buttonpusher
10-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Tough spot, I would have folded pre-flop with that hand. Against a villain with those stats just wait until you have a great hand and can really play back at him without having to guess if you are ahead.

As for the flop, fold. I think UTG has a full house with a low pocket pair almost every time.

Spurious
10-19-2007, 12:55 PM
i think preflop is fine, maybe even 3bet.
do you guys look at the stats he posts? to advice folding preflop is horrible imo.

Now turn puts you on a test.
Folding is hard, but there are 2 hands i am worried about K6s and KQ and sets.
His low aggrofactor sucks, but it's just 42 hands and he would get aggressive with KT, K9,etc.

Call here and throw up if he shows up with a better hand.

Genesis
10-19-2007, 01:02 PM
[ QUOTE ]
i think preflop is fine, maybe even 3bet.
do you guys look at the stats he posts? to advice folding preflop is horrible imo.


[/ QUOTE ] I really don't want to play a mediocre offsuit hand 4-way and OOP for a raise. Against a Button open-raise I would consider it.

NL Newbie
10-19-2007, 01:53 PM
Fold preflop.
Ummm i think we're ahead enough to go broke tbh, i'd say we see K2s+ and K8o+ maybe even AA here.

Kasane
10-19-2007, 02:04 PM
pf is a bad call because your hand is not the sort of thing you want -- even given your two villains' stats -- oop in a 3 or 4way pot. KJos makes marginal top pair hands a lot. This is not what you want when facing a 4way pot oop with a likely bloated flop size.

Nice speculative hands that play well oop are better, even say 75s or something is better than KJos.

Flop donk is suspect, too. What are you doing if UTG folds and button raises? Does a strong hand donk here? A: not often.