NL50 bottom set, am i beat here ?

[daveLux]

villain likes to call a lot yet getting involved with mediocre cards at times. normally i call this but this screams like a set of 5s . possibly could be Ax of clubs too , A5suited is definetely in his range aswell...

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com)Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

CO: $75.10
BTN: $50.25
SB: $9.70
BB: $15.75
Hero (UTG): $49.95
UTG+1: $28.25
UTG+2: $48.80
MP1: $63.35
MP2: $102.95

Pre-Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3</font>, BTN calls $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $2.50

Flop: ($13.25) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $60.35 and is All-In</font>, CO folds, Hero ????

[Schiester]

Do you have any stats on villan?

[ghostface]

who cares? call

[vixticator]

You must be beat, you posted it here. So, fold.

[ghostface]

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You must be beat, you posted it here. So, fold.

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A+

[daveLux]

no actually i chickened out.... btw stats were 24/5 / 2 (336)

[vixticator]

Wait, you folded? Wow. Dude. No, call every time. Good chance he has AcXc.

[daveLux]

normally i would but today i had like 10 set under set situations and i was just getting sick of it happening every single time. but oh well maybe this time i did get pushed out but i really felt uncomfortable there

[Schiester]

I'm a bit beat here. call/call pf; minbet/3betAI flop?? Is he doing this with 2pair? Maybe if he's worried about the flush draw.

Def not 66-KK. I dunno. The flop bet is screaming to be raised; looks pretty intentional.

Could be an uber draw.

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71,280 games 0.005 secs 14,256,000 games/sec

Board: As 4c 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.402% 53.70% 00.70% 38277 500.50 { 44 }
Hand 1: 45.598% 44.90% 00.70% 32002 500.50 { AA, 55, A5s-A4s, 7c6c, 54s, 32s, A5o-A4o }


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71,280 games 0.094 secs 758,297 games/sec

Board: As 4c 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.402% 53.70% 00.70% 38277 500.50 { 44 }
Hand 1: 45.598% 44.90% 00.70% 32002 500.50 { AA, 55, A5s-A4s, 7c6c, 54s, 32s, A5o-A4o }


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This range gives you odds to call.

I think this range is a bit generous seeing as how the hand played out.

[finalboarder]

I would call. There are only two hands ahead of you. Against Axs you're a 2:1 favorite. Against A5 you're way ahead. If you don't think villian played AA this way then there is really only one hand ahead of you. I think that this is a combo draw often enough to call.

[daveLux]

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no actually i chickened out.... btw stats were 24/5 / 2 (336)

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well i couldnt fold really was kiddin before /images/graemlins/smile.gif

result :

Hero calls $30.95 and is All-In

Turn: ($110.65) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($110.65) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $110.65 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON $53.85 (+$3.90 NET)
MP1 showed 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON $53.80 (+$3.85 NET)


so in the end he did have what i was afraid of but got super lucky to chop the pot..

[Schiester]

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no actually i chickened out.... btw stats were 24/5 / 2 (336)

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well i couldnt fold really was kiddin before /images/graemlins/smile.gif


result :

Hero calls $30.95 and is All-In

Turn: ($110.65) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($110.65) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $110.65 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON $53.85 (+$3.90 NET)
MP1 showed 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a straight, Ace to Five) and WON $53.80 (+$3.85 NET)


so in the end he did have what i was afraid of but got super lucky to chop the pot..

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Happy ending for an underset!

[Bantam222]

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normally i would but today i had like 10 set under set situations and i was just getting sick of it happening every single time. but oh well maybe this time i did get pushed out but i really felt uncomfortable there

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&lt;3 full ring

[ICMoney]

Wow, I thought FRers only waited for sets.

Now bottom set isn't good enough.

I guess you have to mine for top set these days.

Must be a huge fish pond.

[corsakh]

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I guess you have to mine for top set these days.

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[98Suited]

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $75.10
BTN: $50.25
SB: $9.70
BB: $15.75
Hero (UTG): $49.95
UTG+1: $28.25
UTG+2: $48.80
MP1: $63.35
MP2: $102.95


Maybe they should do a don't-fold-sets-ever-unless-crazy deep-4flush/4straight board thread to go with the don't fold KK pf-thread

[xeanatic]

NEVER FOLD A SET ON FLOP

[prodonkey]

Never fold AA preflop

[ama0330]

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I guess you have to mine for top set these days.

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