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insertnickname
10-16-2007, 03:20 PM
Is a call here okay?
No reads on villain, he was new to the table.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $81</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?

21SuicideKing21
10-16-2007, 03:22 PM
what are stack sizes?

Spurious
10-16-2007, 03:25 PM
i guess it's a fold

insertnickname
10-16-2007, 03:29 PM
Hero $50
Button $82

21SuicideKing21
10-16-2007, 03:32 PM
yea not really sure, I think its a fold here imo.

willyc
10-16-2007, 03:41 PM
Your 3-bet to 20 puts you a bad spot. If had 3-bet to 14 or so you could easily fold to a shove. Here you've committed 40% of your stack so you pretty much have to call.

If you put AK (or JJ/QQ) in his range you have the right equity to call.

But seriously, don't make it 20 if you're not going to call a shove.

Phytopath
10-16-2007, 06:37 PM
Yeah after you 4-bet to 20, you can't fold here. So this is an easy call, but after he 5-bets you are going to be taking the worst of it most of the time.

EMc
10-16-2007, 06:40 PM
3 betting to 20 is fine, 14 is probably too small.

At the next point, there is 20+2+2+5+20 in the pot, about 5-3 odds on your money, someone check a poker stove against AA-KK, AK. I think we are close, probably taking the worst of it.

Numfar
10-16-2007, 06:53 PM
AA,KK &amp; AK against QQ is 60/40 but to be honest I don't think we see AK here enough. AA,KK &amp; AKs is a 73/27 favourite. I think I have to fold.

takingcontrol
10-16-2007, 07:06 PM
if the table's stats are loose i'd be more likely to call here.

TheChad
10-16-2007, 07:09 PM
Is calling here a leak? short-handed, I cannot find a fold.

Wilpro
10-16-2007, 07:31 PM
I fold JJ/QQ here alot, maybe a leak, never sure.

CruS
10-16-2007, 07:36 PM
I have my own style here, when I think it's very close (which it is atm) I call this shove IF:
1. His stats tell me to (he has a very high AF, big PFR or just very loose in general)
2. I have been VERY active raising a LOT lately, say maybe the last couple of hands.
3. He hates me because of pots that I took from him.

Otherwise I just fold.

DockDD
10-16-2007, 08:04 PM
He's new to the table and already has $80 so I'm calling since I assume he's overaggressive. We probably have about 30% equity against a sane player.

Nick Royale
10-16-2007, 08:37 PM
Never ever 3-bet 40% of your stack preflop and fold.

Chxdgt
10-16-2007, 11:33 PM
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Never ever 3-bet 40% of your stack preflop and fold.

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