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LOwrestling2001
10-16-2007, 12:37 PM
New table no reads:
Fold here? Also, do we just C/C the turn since we picked up an OESD but there's less FE on the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($84.80)
UTG ($45.50)
MP ($20.15)
Hero ($50.45)
Button ($53.90)
SB ($53.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($5.75) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($12.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6.5</font>, Hero calls $6.50.

River: ($25.75) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $14</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $25.75
CyberianBull
10-16-2007, 01:31 PM
I would raise this flop to like $9-ish for value/info, and probably fold to a shove - 'cause best case scenario is he has AKs and it's still a coin flip.
YanP
10-16-2007, 02:08 PM
i raise flop too, i call the river in a flash. Did you think the T helped? i don't
Milky
10-16-2007, 02:11 PM
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i raise flop too, i call the river in a flash. Did you think the T helped? i don't

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What do we beat by the river that villain is betting all 3 streets with? Unimproved AK/AQ mostly... If villain is super aggro then maybe I'd call but I'd probably fold. However I agree that you need to raise flop. It looks like you're being taken to value town from a higher pair here...
LOwrestling2001
10-16-2007, 03:09 PM
yea those were my thoughts at the river, a bigger pair taking me to town =(. for those who say raise the flop for value. what about this hand?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=12528319&amp;an=0&amp;page=0&amp;gon ew=1#UNREAD)

i understand 200nl is a little different, but even folks say flat call that flop against an unknown utg raiser.
Nemesis69
10-16-2007, 03:15 PM
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yea those were my thoughts at the river, a bigger pair taking me to town =(. for those who say raise the flop for value. what about this hand?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=12528319&amp;an=0&amp;page=0&amp;gon ew=1#UNREAD)

i understand 200nl is a LOT different, but even folks say flat call that flop against an unknown utg raiser.

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