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Peleus
10-16-2007, 09:51 AM
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $48.70
BTN: $27.65
Hero (SB): $98.75
BB: $20.70
UTG: $58.15
MP: $45

Pre-Flop: 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $5.50</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($12) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $18.50</font>, Hero ???

<font color="blue"> Villain is running at 46/6/1.5 over 15 hands. No real reads but seems like someone I want at my table given the stats. I can't confidently put my money in here can I?</font>

ghostface
10-16-2007, 09:58 AM
You are ahead of 77 and 55.

ShipitFMA
10-16-2007, 10:00 AM
i think bet / folding the flop is alot better line, that being said i think this is a clear fold

CobraGoat
10-16-2007, 10:00 AM
mmm, really weird spot. why not just c.c the flop bet given the ridiculous odds you have to draw to a set!

IMO, villain is f'ing around with overs here.

adlad
10-16-2007, 10:01 AM
yeah I'd fold here. It looks like a badly played overpair on his part. Looks like he called preflop with a premium pair as he was scared to get a walk with his good hand. The minraise pf just makes this an even more likely scenario.

Minraise post flop is awful from villain if he does indeed have an overpair, but then again, it seems likely for the average donk:)

Khumalo
10-16-2007, 10:03 AM
How maniacal is villain? I need a good read to continue with this hand. If you look at his limp re-raise PF combined with his bet/3-bet on this low flop, it's hard not to weigh his range toward big pairs here (unless he's being crazy aggro in lots of places all the time.)

I don't mind your raise pf from the SB there, I think it shows a profit against generic loose limpers. Your call of his re-raise is automatic, if only for set value.

I slow down on flops without an 8, though a low board is the second best thing (other than 567r). His bet is so weak that you must raise, but I would go to ~$6.50, not $10. When he 3 bets, I dump my hand, unless I have an amazing read.

Peleus
10-16-2007, 10:03 AM
In hindsight I'd call the flop bet and draw to the set. Saying that however I felt there was a good chance I could take it away from him, and didn't know how to interpret the small bet.

adlad
10-16-2007, 10:18 AM
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In hindsight I'd call the flop bet and draw to the set. Saying that however I felt there was a good chance I could take it away from him, and didn't know how to interpret the small bet.

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I'd advise against that, you're 22:1 to hit a set with only 3.5:1 odds.

toddxlogan
10-16-2007, 10:37 AM
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In hindsight I'd call the flop bet and draw to the set. Saying that however I felt there was a good chance I could take it away from him, and didn't know how to interpret the small bet.

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I'd advise against that, you're 22:1 to hit a set with only 3.5:1 odds.

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Uh, hes getting like 9:1 on the guys flop bet. They are saying call the $1.50 when theres what like $12 in teh pot.

iheartponeez
10-16-2007, 10:55 AM
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I'd advise against that, you're 22:1 to hit a set with only 3.5:1 odds.

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Uh, hes getting like 9:1 on the guys flop bet. They are saying call the $1.50 when theres what like $12 in teh pot.

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Plus implied odds.

members_only
10-16-2007, 10:56 AM
Without a read, I would respect the limp/min-re-raise from this kind of villain and play for set value only. (I would call his flop bet though.)

monkeymaps
10-16-2007, 11:15 AM
from a guy that is only rasing 6% of his hands he limp RR's you pre so you have to give him a range of AK QQ+ IMO with that in mind IDK why your trying to turn 88 into a bluff on the flop given the only hand you fold out is AK. Villans line from a passive donk type player sreams a monster hand just play 88 for set value you missed call his flop bet getting like 12.5-1 though cause youll stack him anytime you spike a 8.

adlad
10-16-2007, 12:20 PM
my mistake, i thought you meant the 3bet. I would also have just called the flop bet btw, knowing that villain had limp reraised pf.