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Tempel
10-16-2007, 08:20 AM
Villain unknown, no stats no history. Whats my best line here?

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Seat 1: Hero ($69.55)
Seat 2: Amsixinit ($27.50)
Seat 3: Crapulance ($30.65) - http://www.cardrunners.com/members/images/db.gif
Seat 4: docPoW ($42.10) - http://www.cardrunners.com/members/images/sb.gif
Seat 5: Villain ($66.40) - http://www.cardrunners.com/members/images/bb.gif
Seat 6: LES Alert ($139.95)

<font color="#000000">PRE-FLOP:</font>

docPoW <font color="#272BA6">posts small blind $0.25</font>
Villain <font color="#272BA6">posts BIG blind $0.50</font>
Dealt To: Hero
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<font color="#000000">FOLD LES Alert</font>
<font color="#272BA6">RAISE Hero</font> ($1.75)
<font color="#000000">FOLD Amsixinit</font>
<font color="#000000">FOLD Crapulance</font>
<font color="#000000">FOLD docPoW</font>
<font color="#B93238">CALL Berlitz</font> ($1.25)

<font color="#000000">FLOP:</font>

Pot: $3.75
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<font color="#000000">CHECK Berlitz</font>
<font color="#272BA6">BET Hero</font> ($2)
<font color="#272BA6">RAISE Berlitz</font> ($5.50)
<font color="#B93238">CALL Hero</font> ($3.50)

<font color="#000000">TURN:</font>

Pot: $14.75
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<font color="#272BA6">BET Villain</font> ($10.50)
Hero....?

This hand is just strange, and not well played from the start...i know. But does he RR me on flop cuz of my small c-bet? but oop why does he RR so small? What should i do with this, just throw it away? Or is he playing on my weakness here? Call and evaluate river or just fold cuz were both semideep and i have a marginal hand? Thx for advice for the whole line even if this might be more standard then i think it is.

Berky
10-16-2007, 09:17 AM
I prob fold preflop. Only raise it if its fold to me in the CO or button. Flop is ok i guess but i snap fold turn without a read.

Tempel
10-16-2007, 09:30 AM
I was getting cold cards for a while and decided to make an EV- play i guess. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Ur right, im mostly folding pf here oop. But i throw in a hand like this once in a while to mix it up a bit. Anyway... as played fold turn without thinking to much about it is best here?

adlad
10-16-2007, 09:46 AM
Raising preflop with this hand is quite LAG, but fine imo. If we consider the possible kings he could be holding to call your raise OOP:

AK (if villain is weak preflop)
KQ (reasonable call)
KJ (loose, but very possible at these limits)

A complete bluff is unlikely, as the cr on flop seems to be wanting a call (villain should bet $6 or more if he wants to put you off)

We obviously cant discount a set or twopair completely either (88, 66 are possible preflop but unlikely postflop due to villain cr'ing on a relatively safe board.

K8/K6 are unlikely preflop but are a possibility postflop.

Personally, I would call the flop to see the turn (a heart could set you up for semi-bluff and obviously a K or T may well be good too. I would then fold the turn, as villain is showing strength in a hand where you are relying on villain to be making a major mistake for you to make any profit on this - there are realistically more hands beating you than you can beat.