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Numfar
10-15-2007, 12:08 AM
Sadly, it turns out that I'm the donk.

Firstly, no Hud on Everest (AFAIK) so no stats but generally that site is very loose passive and I hadn't played a hand with this guy so I guess he was pretty tight. Also, I don't know of a HH converter for Everest so I've tried to make it readable.

EverestPoker Game #2211420026: Table Doha-37 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 05:31:10 - 2007/10/14

Seat 1: Galudon ($59.82)
Seat 2: Lynce13 ($8.00)
Seat 3: Billy1000 ($43.65)
Seat 4: Madcow75 ($20.70)
Seat 5: yostyle ($58.27)
Seat 6: Numfar ($53.70)

Madcow75 posts the small blind of $0.25
yostyle posts the big blind of $0.50
Lynce13 posts $0.50
The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Numfar[Ad As]
Numfar raises to $2.25
Galudon folds
Lynce13 folds
Billy1000 folds
Madcow75 folds
yostyle calls $1.75

*** FLOP *** [Kc Js 3d] Pot = $5.25
yostyle bets $2.50
Numfar raises to $8.00
yostyle calls $5.50

*** TURN *** [Kc Js 3d] [6h] Pot = $21.25
yostyle checks
Numfar bets $15.00
yostyle raises to $30.00
Numfar raises to $43.45 and is all-in
yostyle calls $13.45

I have a problem with hands like this because I feel as though once I commit to betting the Turn, I have put half my chips in and I can't fold. Unfortunately, I'm never ahead as far as I can tell.

Do I just fold to the c/r or am I too committed & I'm up against AK or KQ enough?

AZplaya
10-15-2007, 12:21 AM
if you don't want to play for stacks then check behind turn. If you do want to play for stacks then how you played it is fine. Typically against a tight passive player I'm trying to avoid playing for stacks with 1 pair.

Numfar
10-15-2007, 01:03 AM
Well, I do want to play for stacks - but his, not mine. I think the bet on the turn is correct because villain will often just call down with his KQ & I'm losing value if I check behind. The problem is that everything changes when he c/min-raises me.

jerryf1914
10-15-2007, 02:01 AM
simple answer. don't raise pf with aa, only reraise pf with aa then you're chances of getting stacked by a +ev set go to 0

thac
10-15-2007, 02:06 AM
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simple answer. don't raise pf with aa, only reraise pf with aa then you're chances of getting stacked by a +ev set go to 0

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Oh my god, what?

OP - If you don't mind getting it in, the turn bet is fine, you can even make it like 12.5 if you want. I think it's an okay hand, sorry you lost to KJ or 33 /images/graemlins/frown.gif

creamfillin
10-15-2007, 02:42 AM
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simple answer. don't raise pf with aa, only reraise pf with aa then you're chances of getting stacked by a +ev set go to 0

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?

[] gimmick account
[] drunk
[] really born in 1914

iheartponeez
10-15-2007, 02:47 AM
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[x] really born in 1914

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Little known fact: Raising with AA wasn't invented until 1935 by one of Hitler's associates. So remember that whenever someone beats you with a raised AA, you are entitled to tell them they are using Nazi tactics.

YanP
10-16-2007, 03:22 AM
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simple answer. don't raise pf with aa, only reraise pf with aa then you're chances of getting stacked by a +ev set go to 0

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this is gold

Lego05
10-16-2007, 09:41 AM
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simple answer. don't raise pf with aa, only reraise pf with aa then you're chances of getting stacked by a +ev set go to 0

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Terrible....yet again.




I probably just call his flop bet though raise sometimes.

As played I definitly check behind on turn.


The only real draw is QT and you have 2 of that hand's outs. I'd just call flop to keep his range wider..pair of K's, pair of J's, or whatever garbage...and let him keep firing with it. As played I check behind on turn to control the pot. The only hands you'd beat that you'd get 3 streets of value from anyway are AK,KQ,and maaayybe KT.