Set Aces faced with river all-in (10NL)

[kakature]

No reads on villain, it was my third hand. Maybe I should have bet more on the flop, but the flop seemed safe to me.

Turnbet: betting for value. I didn't think he had a flush -or straightdraw. I put him on a AQ or something, maybe even AT.

River: can I call this bet? I flopped a monster and there are no flush possibilities but there is a straight possibility though.


CD Poker Adagissimo 0.05/0.10, hand converted by the iPoker Converter (http://www.talking-poker.com/hands/converter.aspx) at Talking-Poker (http://www.talking-poker.com)

Button Hero ($9.85)
SB ($24.21)
BB BB ($11.16)
UTG ($9.80)
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($22.30)
CO ($3.20)

Preflop: Hero is on the Button with Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to 0.50, 1 fold, BB calls 0.40, UTG+1 calls 0.40.

Flop (1.55) 2http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif 7http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 1, BB calls 1, 1 fold.

Turn (3.55) Thttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
BB checks, Hero bets 2.50, BB calls 2.50.

River (8.55) 4http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
BB moves all-in for 7.16, Hero ????

[ajml]

retarded gimmick, ban

[iheartponeez]

Fold it.

He called with 3/5 preflop for exactly this kind of situation, don't pay him off and make it profitable for him.

[Dr_Doctr]

You should hang around the forums and read a lot if you really considered folding.

[Schiester]

Call for sure.

Only one hand beats you here.

...plz dont tell me you folded.

[kakature]

Damn, you guys work fast.

Question: what do you think of the flop & turnbet?

[ajml]

I think they are about the right size. The board is so dry a larger bet might not get called, a smaller bet like these could even induce a raise.

[Dr_Doctr]

Flop and turn bets are fine - the board is dry and you have a virtual lock. If you have reads that your opponents are willing to pay off larger bets, then bet more, if the opposite then bet less. But the amount you bet here is fine as default.

[kakature]

Maybe this looks like an auto-call for you guys, but I wasn't sure because he played the hand passively and his riverbet is fairly strong. I hoped he had AT or something.
Anyway; thanks for the feedback!

[Dr_Doctr]

Don't be results-orientated. And don't post results - and some people will tell you to post results in BBV - but never post anything there. Being results orientated is the first thing you have to get over if you ever want to play reasonably well.

[iheartponeez]

You donkey. I told you NOT to call. You shouldn't have bet the flop or turn either.

If your opponent has a hand, he'll bet at you and then you can raise it because AA is the best hand in the game.

If they aren't betting, it means they'll fold if YOU bet and you won't win a lot of money.

The right line to take with AA is check any street/raise all-in if someone bets. But if there's a straight or flush possible then just fold.

[willyc]

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Preflop: Hero is on the Button with Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
1 fold, UTG+1 calls 0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to 0.50, 1 fold, BB calls 0.40, UTG+1 calls 0.40.

Flop (1.55) 2http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/diamond.gif 7http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/heart.gif
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets 1, BB calls 1, 1 fold.

Turn (3.55) Thttp://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/spade.gif
BB checks, Hero bets 2.50, BB calls 2.50.

River (8.55) 4http://www.talking-poker.com/templates/talkingpoker/images/club.gif
BB moves all-in for 7.16, Hero ????

[/ QUOTE ]

Ban

[kakature]

[ QUOTE ]
You donkey. I told you NOT to call. You shouldn't have bet the flop or turn either.

If your opponent has a hand, he'll bet at you and then you can raise it because AA is the best hand in the game.

If they aren't betting, it means they'll fold if YOU bet and you won't win a lot of money.

The right line to take with AA is check any street/raise all-in if someone bets. But if there's a straight or flush possible then just fold.

[/ QUOTE ]Are you serious? If I check any street then they draw way to cheap. Also, I had the nuts preflop, on the flop and on the turn so it would be stupid to not bet I think. 90 % of the time I win a nice pot if that 4 doesn't come so it was the right thing to do imo.

[Dr_Doctr]

He isn't serious, just a cool kid.

[iheartponeez]

[ QUOTE ]
Are you serious? If I check any street then they draw way to cheap. Also, I had the nuts preflop, on the flop and on the turn so it would be stupid to not bet I think. 90 % of the time I win a nice pot if that 4 doesn't come so it was the right thing to do imo.

[/ QUOTE ]


I'm not serious, I'm just assuming you're a gimmick.

[bknollenberg]

you guys are totally missing the point on this hand.

villain is using expertly mastered 8th level psychology.
level 1: he has a gutshot.
level 2: he thinks kakature has at least top pair or better.
level 3: he thinks kakature thinks that he has an A, pocket pair, or better.
level 4: since he thinks kakature puts him on those hands, kakature probably knows he's ahead and will call a shove when he hits his gutshot.
level 5: given that, he considers that kakature thinks he has a random draw and does not semi-bluff with his strong draw.
level 6: since kakature has considered that villain has a random draw, he underbets the turn in an attempt to induce a call with the best hand.
level 7: ???
level 8: profit.

[SuperPokerJedi]

^^ I like these levels"!