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kroeliewoelie
10-14-2007, 05:01 PM
Ok, I couldn't quickly locate a suitable handhistory, so I just explain the setting of my question.

Say you raise AK UTG, get called by the button and the small blind. The pot is now 13bb. Flop comes with 3 random cards, but no aces and kings.

My question is what do you do if the small blinds donks this flop for 1bb (or something like 3bb)? You have just overcards and the button still has to act behind you.

Edukashun
10-14-2007, 05:18 PM
It depends on their tendencies as well as the flop texture imho

Khaos4k
10-14-2007, 05:50 PM
Treat it as a check and cbet.

bozzer
10-14-2007, 07:01 PM
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It depends on their tendencies as well as the flop texture imho

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agree it's v player dependent. calling, folding and raising are all viable options in your example.

willyc
10-14-2007, 07:17 PM
This is almost always weakness - nothing, bottom pair, weak draw, etc.. I see this a lot and have had the best results c-betting a little more than normal - like 4/5th pot. Not sure what else to say.

Edit: I thought of something else to say. If you're Button in this spot and UTG just calls then make a good sized raise (4/5th pot) with ATC. Pretty easy steal there.

kroeliewoelie
10-15-2007, 07:18 AM
Now let's assume our opponents are either
1) weak tight (W)
2) calling stations (C)
3) maniaks (M)

Since we have 2 opponents we can make 9 combinations of these types. I discuss my thoughts on each of the combo's

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In the following cases the button is rather passive, so you can draw cheap to improve your hand. I would go for the call. Folding is not nice because of great pot odds and raising just blows up the pot with Ace high.
1) SB: C, BTN: C
2) SB: M, BTN: C
3) SB: W, BTN: C
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If the BTN is a maniak, I would fold. I don't like playing just overcards against an overaggressive player OOP. The problem here is that I find this a bit weak.
4) SB: C, BTN: M
5) SB: M, BTN: M
6) SB: W, BTN: M

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7) SB: C, BTN: W
Since the small blinds calls anyway, I don't really like raising, because it blows up the pot with just overcards. But this gives the BTN the opportunity to come along. I don't like that too.

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8) SB: M, BTN: W
Here I think the maniak probably has nothing, but raising here might blow up the pot. Calling probably induces a large turn bet. Folding is weak.

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9) SB: W, BTN: W
Since both of them fold pretty easily, I'd cbet.

Please discuss.

kroeliewoelie
10-15-2007, 09:40 AM
bump