QQ gets flatcalled by semi thinking retard

[icheckcallu]

Hand ID 119765004
NL $25 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 09:25:00 14/10/2007 ET
Table 'Ride Along (6 Max)', 6 seats max, Real money
Seat 2 is the button. Small Blind $0.10, Big Blind $0.25
Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6
Seat 1 (playing) : duncan_bg, amount $24.45, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 2 (playing) : sebringdude, amount $6.65, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 3 (playing) : nutmeg4, amount $29.03, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 4 (playing) : steffoh, amount $23.09, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 5 (playing) : RumbleCL, amount $31.65, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
Seat 6 (playing) : Joey1073, amount $23.70, amount bet $0, penalty (None)
nutmeg4: Small Blind ($0.10)
steffoh: Big Blind ($0.25)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to RumbleCL: [Qh, Qc]
RumbleCL: Raise ($1)
Joey1073: Fold
duncan_bg: Call ($1)
sebringdude: Fold
nutmeg4: Fold
steffoh: Fold
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [Jd, 2d, 5h]
RumbleCL: Bet ($1.75)
duncan_bg: Raise ($3.50)
RumbleCL: Raise ($10.13)
duncan_bg: Raise ($23.45)


NOW WHAT???

[Spurious]

I guess we can fold here.
Seems like a set or maybe combodraw.

[Inf1n1tY]

+1 ;instant fold here

the only hand that you would beat qould be AJ but i think its very unlikely that he has it.

what sort of combo draw could hehave in this situation? 3,4 of diamonds? i think thats very unlikely

[Spurious]

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what sort of combo draw could hehave in this situation? 3,4 of diamonds? i think thats very unlikely

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A3/4 diamonds is a combodraw as well /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Inf1n1tY]

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A3/4 diamonds is a combodraw as well /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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ok you got me =)

[Khumalo]

Wow, um, when you make it $10 on the flop you're basically felting here, especially against a retard, semi-thinking or not. No way can you fold your overpair here getting, what is it, ~3:1?, and having committed like half your stack. I figure a retard stacks off with any J / draw here, and a semi-thinking one will do so with AJ / KJ / 8 out+ draws / better, so call.

If you really don't want to get it in on the flop, then call his raise and evaluate his action on various turns, optimistically so on blank ones, though given that you don't especially want to see an A, K, or diamond, felting the flop sounds good to me.

EDIT: No way is flop an "instant fold" as played. Making it $10 on flop = calling villain's shove.

[Inf1n1tY]

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Wow, um, when you make it $10 on the flop you're basically felting here, especially against a retard, semi-thinking or not. No way can you fold your overpair here getting, what is it, ~3:1?, and having committed like half your stack. I figure a retard stacks off with any J / draw here, and a semi-thinking one will do so with AJ / KJ / 8 out+ draws / better, so call.

If you really don't want to get it in on the flop, then call his raise and evaluate his action on various turns, optimistically so on blank ones, though given that you don't especially want to see an A, K, or diamond, felting the flop sounds good to me.

EDIT: No way is flop an "instant fold" as played. Making it $10 on flop = calling villain's shove.

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getting ~3 to 1 pot odds and having invested nearly have of the effective stack, its true that you should be less inclinced to fold in that spot. If he really is a player as bad as you say you can call here otherwise i would fold.

[nutstoyou]

I don't like the reraise on the flop to $10.13 at all. When you do this, you have to be ready to call an all-in shove and he is playing this hand a lot like he has a set. As played I would fold.