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creamfillin
10-13-2007, 01:43 PM
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CO ($5.25)
Button ($15.40)
SB ($4.30)
Hero ($9.85)
UTG ($2.10)
MP ($15.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, SB calls $0.30.

Flop: ($0.80) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($0.80) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($1.80) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3.4 (All-In)</font>, Hero..
Ranma4703
10-13-2007, 01:44 PM
You aren't. Why are you not betting that flop?
n4rf
10-13-2007, 01:46 PM
The real question is: Why would I call this river?

Seriously the only thing you beat here is a complete bluff, and while it's possible, you really wanna risk it with an 8/7? And this sure as hell doesn't seem like a bluff to me, unless villain is a complete maniac.
choccypie
10-13-2007, 01:50 PM
I don't understand why you're not betting that flop?

As played fold.
Ender Wiggin
10-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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I don't understand why you're not betting that flop?

As played fold.

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rrrorrim
10-13-2007, 02:03 PM
If you bet the flop you'd gain crucial information about his hand...
Ender Wiggin
10-13-2007, 02:14 PM
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If you bet the flop you get value

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Ender Wiggin
10-13-2007, 02:14 PM
and information I guess but mainly value and avoiding being easily readable ducy`?
Stark
10-13-2007, 02:22 PM
Why are you not betting the flop?

As played, with no reads, I don't think there's any reason to call this unless you like to spew money to satisfy your curiousity or have some sixth sense
creamfillin
10-13-2007, 02:24 PM
I'm not betting the flop because there are virtually no hands that call that I beat, and I might get played back at light on a flop like this in a blind war.
Ender Wiggin
10-13-2007, 02:25 PM
creamfillin

I have played &gt; 40k hands of 10NL. Villains do call the cbet with hands you beat here.
n4rf
10-13-2007, 02:26 PM
Standard cont. bet on flop, and you actually have a pair.
Ender Wiggin
10-13-2007, 02:27 PM
56, 66, 55, 33, 22. A lot of the time they call with Ax too. Trust me. Also, the information part does have some merit although the main objective is value.

Another thing: are you gonna bet flops only when you have total air or TPTK+, and check behind whenever you have mid pairs and showdown value [censored]? Think about the consequences of this.
Stark
10-13-2007, 02:40 PM
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I'm not betting the flop because there are virtually no hands that call that I beat, and I might get played back at light on a flop like this in a blind war.

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Raised pot against blind, standard c-bet 100% of the time with top pair... we're probably getting called super light(air 90% of the time), not raised light imo.

We also don't want this hand to continue and we want to take it down now, on the flop, because we don't want to make tough decisions on later streets which is exactly what happened here
Khaos4k
10-13-2007, 02:47 PM
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I'm not betting the flop because there are virtually no hands that call that I beat, and I might get played back at light on a flop like this in a blind war.

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Two big broadway will call you.
vixticator
10-13-2007, 03:21 PM
Bet every street and fold to raises.
Ender Wiggin
10-13-2007, 03:37 PM
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not raised light imo.


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depends imo
tarheeljks
10-13-2007, 03:42 PM
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I'm not betting the flop because there are virtually no hands that call that I beat, and I might get played back at light on a flop like this in a blind war.

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it was folded to villain who limp called from the sb, who knows what he will call a cbet w/. winning the pot here is hardly a bad thing as you are unlikely to have great sd if this gets to the river.
yegon
10-13-2007, 07:40 PM
By checking you are giving up on the hand. Would you fold turn if it would have been an overcard and villain bets? The only turn cards that are not that dangerous to you are 2 and 5. Everything else makes your future decisions harder. I think in this situation it's better to try to win the pot now.
Jever
10-13-2007, 07:44 PM
Your avatar is too stupid to get a serious answer moran.
rrrorrim
10-15-2007, 03:48 PM
lolol... Yeah, moran.