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Gorvacofin
10-12-2007, 10:07 AM
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BB): $18.20
UTG: $24.65
MP: $9.90
CO: $6.60
BTN: $25
SB: $37.40

CO posts $0.25
Pre-Flop: 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP checks, CO checks, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $20</font>

Results: $4.50 Pot ($4.50 Rake)

Villain was new to the table, so no reads. The leader was firing out at pretty much every pot. Villain went all-in very quickly. Is it a bad move to give villain credit for the straight here and lay this down?

traz
10-12-2007, 10:10 AM
Basically never fold top set on the flop

monkeymaps
10-12-2007, 10:12 AM
I do not ever fold this. He could have alot of stuff here other than a st8 actully I think you see a FD w/overs more often than a str8 here.

choccypie
10-12-2007, 10:58 AM
Call, you have no reason to think he definitely flopped a straight. Besides, you still have outs to a boat. I'd be more afraid of a minraise, villians at/around this level tend to minraise when they flop a big hand.

rNx
10-12-2007, 11:28 AM
I say just go all in.

Lego05
10-12-2007, 12:30 PM
I woulda raised pre-flop especially with 2 people posting in MP and CO and then checking their hand.


Don't fold the flop. Getting it all-in is very good.

Milky
10-12-2007, 12:32 PM
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I woulda raised pre-flop especially with 2 people posting in MP and CO and then checking their hand.


Don't fold the flop. Getting it all-in is very good.

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Agreed. Typically I'm raising 77+ from blinds otherwise just completing 66 and down. Also I'm never folding top set here.

castigar
10-12-2007, 12:33 PM
snap shove.

fl1p
10-12-2007, 12:36 PM
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snap shove.

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21SuicideKing21
10-12-2007, 12:42 PM
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soded
10-12-2007, 12:54 PM
You're putting Villain on 1 hand? Well basically any combination of 45 suited or not? You have the 2nd nuts right now, and facing draws more often than not, agreed with the snap shove

MaltbyStu
10-12-2007, 12:54 PM
I've only played NL25 for a few weeks and have about 25K hands. On 3 or 4 occasions I have faced a similar massive push where I have a set or very strong hand but not the nuts.

I always call and I think I always will but everytime the massive overbet has been the nuts.

The annoying thing is I lost them all. I need to practice my suckouts more.

CrAcK_N_CoKe
10-12-2007, 01:08 PM
Never fold here , well its just my opinion but i prefer a raise of 2$ or more on flop.
u will see the straight a lot of times...but under sets probably make the same move...
Thats why i almost always raise all my PP preflop.

YanP
10-12-2007, 01:28 PM
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Basically never fold top set on the flop

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Dallas Dru
10-12-2007, 01:33 PM
never a fold in this position... snap call