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vixticator
10-12-2007, 02:22 AM
Opponent through 50 hands is loose, semi-aggro {40/12/2.5}. Do I need a solid read to call this river? I really don't think he has a flush given turn action.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $23.15
UTG: $36.05
MP: $75.05
CO: $44.90
BTN: $25.70
Hero (SB): $39.95

Pre-Flop: K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.75</font>, BB folds, MP calls $0.75, CO folds

Turn: ($2.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, MP calls $2.25

River: ($7) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.25</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $4.75

PJo336
10-12-2007, 02:23 AM
I see absolutely nothing wrong with the play of this hand tbh

whyzze
10-12-2007, 02:25 AM
I'm raising this preflop

As played, I would rather b/f more on the river, or c/c.

Dallas Dru
10-12-2007, 02:28 AM
i like the line you took..

21SuicideKing21
10-12-2007, 02:34 AM
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I'm raising this preflop

As played, I would rather b/f more on the river, or c/c.

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No way, your hand is def not strong enough to raise here and your SB, so if one of them calls, your OOP the whole way esp if people view the raise as trying to raise out the limper's and won't give you credit for a big hand. You played the hand fine, a little picky is that only thing I don't like is that you should've potted the flop, besides that thought it was well played IMO.

whyzze
10-12-2007, 02:42 AM
we are miles ahead of their limpng range and their limp calling range will fold to a cbet very often. this is a no brainer.

vixticator
10-12-2007, 02:44 AM
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we are miles ahead of their limpng range and their limp calling range will fold to a cbet very often. this is a no brainer.

[/ QUOTE ]Does this change if I tell you both limpers are 40%+ VPIP and so is the BB? Or, even more reason to raise?

whyzze
10-12-2007, 02:48 AM
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we are miles ahead of their limpng range and their limp calling range will fold to a cbet very often. this is a no brainer.

[/ QUOTE ]Does this change if I tell you both limpers are 40%+ VPIP and so is the BB? Or, even more reason to raise?

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depends on their pfr more than their vpip.

If they aren't raising Ak/AQ then never raise.

Limp/folding still adds to your vpip.

greggg230
10-12-2007, 03:22 AM
raising this everytime

why is playing KQ oop in a multi-way limped pot better than playing it oop in a HU raised pot?

terrible
10-12-2007, 04:26 AM
i'm with greggg this is an easy raise pre for me

DaycareInferno
10-12-2007, 04:36 AM
i don't have any problem with raising pre, but you'll take down the pot far less often on the flop in this scenario than you will opening utg or whatever. its not really the same thing.