NL 50: AA gets raised on dry flop

[Pokerdemic]

I thought there were two players in the pot, hence the too-large 3bet. What is standard against unknown villain here?

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Hero (SB): $55.60
BB: $24.15
UTG: $59.10
MP: $58.00
CO: $57.40
BTN: $10.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, BB folds, MP calls $5.00

Flop: ($14.50) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $17.00</font>, Hero ?

[Mr. Ratface]

all in

[KEW]

Classic spot for a Stack-A-Donk line...

PF 3 bet size is fine...

[Pokerdemic]

am i the donk or is he? What is the stack a donk line?

[KEW]

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am i the donk or is he? What is the stack a donk line?

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stack-a-donk=Call flop raise, then CRAI on the turn..

[catoandtonic]

Stack a donk is where you smoothcall the raise on flop and then c/r all in on turn. We are assuming villain is the donk and you are the stacker.

[Pokerdemic]

I only ask because I've been playing NL50 for 40k hands now, and I feel like a pair is never good when villain raises a flop.

[llamage]

this is the hand I had earlier..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=3#Post12313815 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=12313815&amp;an=0&amp;page=3#Pos t12313815)

The difference between your hand and my hand is that your hand is 3-bet pot...so you have to get it in. In my case, it seems I'd have to get it in also.

[KEW]

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I only ask because I've been playing NL50 for 40k hands now, and I feel like a pair is never good when villain raises a flop.

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This is villain dependant..Some villain will "test" the PF raiser on the flop..For others they will never raise unless they have TPTK beat...

Playing against a flop raise make me very uncomfortable because a flop raise throws pot control out the window...

[ryang]

reads?

[.xxxx.]

easy decision to commit, now its a matter of whether villain is likely to fire on the turn or if you should play it fast on the flop and get it in.

considering its a dry flop i say let the turn happen and get it in
also, to come up with more aggressive lines later on against the same villain, open shoving the turn is an option, haven't put much thought into what other hands are represented by that line though, thoughts?

[Nick C]

Villain min-raise (well, that's practically all it is) suggests he likes his hand a lot or is trying to "find out where he's at" and/or slow down the action.

So much money went in preflop, though, that you're obviously committed with your overpair. And we don't know if we can count on Villain to keep betting or not.

There is always still the river even if he doesn't bet the turn, but I probably just push immediately.

[barabe]

fold or shove. into a 22.2 pot, villain put another 17 dollars... i would fold, assuming he has pocket queens, with a very good likely hood too...

[barabe]

his preflop action, to me eprsonally, suggests pocket queens, or a possible AQs. if it was me, in a pot as such, i would've bet mre on the flop, like 12, and then if hero raises, i would fold, otherwise check turn, and possibly check river, or put in a little bet. pot control is defintly key here, with a one pair, even if it is an overpair.

[Nemesis69]

Wouldn't villian pull this trick with AQ?

[kolotoure]

He def plays QQ+,AQ,KQ like this and maybe some other hands aswell

[.xxxx.]

There are way more combinations of AQ/KQ than there are QQ, 18 for both (3Q's*2A's + 3Q's*4K's) vs (3Q's*2Q's) 6

[hendal]

Can't believe QQ here, wouldnt that be reraised often preflop? do we know villain stats?

Smells like AQ to me.