50 NL hit a set on the turn, too much of an overbet??? [Archive]

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llamage

10-01-2007, 02:43 PM

Was this too much of an overbet on the turn? I was afraid of the flush draw obviously, but at the same time I was hoping AA or KK would call. Maybe just bet 2/3 pot next time?
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UTG ($62.85)
Hero ($78.15)
CO ($68.30)
Button ($86.70)
SB ($55.65)
BB ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, CO raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero raises to $14.5, CO calls $10.50.

Turn: ($41.75) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $57.65 (All-In), CO folds.

DBG

10-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Yeah, I'd bet 2/3 pot. But over half your stack would be in the pot - if I read that right - so shoving isn't a bad option either. When CO doesn't RR turn you've got to think you're ahead, b/c he would raise with a str8.

I think it's OK. Interested in what others would say.

knifeparty

10-01-2007, 02:57 PM

I don't think so.

Like DBG said, the majority of your stack would be in the pot at that point anyway if you bet 2/3 of the pot or something like that. Why waste time? I like the play.

n4rf

10-01-2007, 03:03 PM

Looks as if CO probably had 77-JJ (probably JJ or TT) A turn raise always looks strong; now I dunno if villain necessarily knew that but the only way I can see villain calling is if he was confident with his hand and thought you were overbetting to push him out of the pot.

Though it's also possible he held KK/AA and right away put you on a set.

I do understand overbetting the pot sometimes, I've done it with AA when I thought my opponent held top pair top kicker and was going to call. Though I usually do it on the river sort of like I was drawing to a flush/straight and missed.

Effen

10-01-2007, 03:04 PM

I'd bet something weak, like $15. If he has a set or Aces, you're getting his money anyway, so why not string along something that may need to hit and give a good price?

You have the stone nuts, but betting $15 there will give him nearly 4:1 on a call to hit whatever. If he has a big hand, he'll raise/shove regardless, and you may get him to bluffshove as well.

AZplaya

10-01-2007, 03:09 PM

I'd probably bet like $30 and give a stubborn pp a chance to call. A flush draw shouldn't be a huge part of his range given the action(3 bet pre and flat flop), and I think a stubborn 1010 - AA would call a smaller value bet on the turn and then be commited to call the river flush. Even if he calls $30 with just a fd + overs he's making a huge mistake.