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hendal
10-01-2007, 11:51 AM
No real reads on board yet.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $10.55
BB: $7.20
UTG: $6.55
CO: $22.70
BTN: $8.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, BB calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero??</font>

DBG
10-01-2007, 12:04 PM
1. Raise more FP, prolly .50-.70; especially since you're OOP.
2. On flop bet 3/4 pot or PSB. Chase the FD's out &amp; anyone with an A, Q, or 2 pr. will call you down. If diamond hits on turn we have a decision.

knifeparty
10-01-2007, 12:12 PM
Yeah, you definitely should have raised more pre-flop. Not just because you are OOP, but also because you have two limpers already in the pot, and you're giving everyone behind you the pot odds to play. Force mediocre hands out early, or at least make it incorrect for them to keep playing.

Depending on the donkness level of the rest of the table, it's probably going to be difficult to chase out anyone with four to a flush on the flop. Definitely throw out a PSB here, and see what happens.

Nemesis69
10-01-2007, 12:14 PM
If we bet and get raised. We instashove ammirite?

hendal
10-01-2007, 12:22 PM
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.30</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $5.00</font>

Now what?

DBG
10-01-2007, 12:29 PM
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<font color="red">Hero bets $1.30</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $5.00</font>

Now what?

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That would put about $8 in the pot, CO isn't gonna fold to a shove so you have no FE, but I say push &amp; pray. Assuming he has a made flush you still have 8 outs, so let's go with it.

knifeparty
10-01-2007, 12:40 PM
So you really have no real reads on this guy at all eh? Putting him on a range would help. He wasn't happy enough with his hand to raise it, but he has no problem calling a raise PF.

Maybe he has something like A10 or lower and is just fighting for his top pair and chasing away any possible draws?

I push and bury my face into a pillow until the hand is over.

hendal
10-01-2007, 12:47 PM
BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $10.15</font>, CO calls $5.15

Turn: ($21.90) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($21.90) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.90 ($1.05 Rake)

bknollenberg
10-01-2007, 12:49 PM
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BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $10.15</font>, CO calls $5.15

Turn: ($21.90) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($21.90) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.90 ($1.05 Rake)

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not the greatest turn and river card i guess, but could be worse. so he had KQ right?

hendal
10-01-2007, 12:52 PM
Turn: ($21.90) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($21.90) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.90 ($1.05 Rake)

CO had 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$10.30)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and LOST (-$10.55)

pikeamus
10-01-2007, 12:53 PM
I would raise more pre you're OOP and don't really want more than one caller at most, you're hand is likely the best now but can be awkward to play OOP. Otherwise I play it the same.

(Edited to add a little more info)

DBG
10-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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Turn: ($21.90) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($21.90) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $21.90 ($1.05 Rake)

CO had 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$10.30)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and LOST (-$10.55)

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Wow. I'd throw up.

Leviathan101
10-01-2007, 02:18 PM
standard. don't even worry about it. raise more preflop but otherwise well played.

LegendLength
10-01-2007, 02:47 PM
And put a note on the guy that he is loose, then raise him 6x bb standard.

n4rf
10-01-2007, 02:56 PM
Usually when I see this happening it's not necessarily a draw. The times I've seen cards flipped over it's been a made flush already, but not the Ace-high flush. The only time I see it as a draw is if that person is holding the Ace. In this situation it can easily be the flush or even the straight, sometimes we just don't give our opponents credit for having it since the chance of people flopping a flush is very slim. However, with THAT many people in the pot it's very doubtful that NO ONE hit that flop hard.

You do have outs drawing to a full boat though and it's hard to lay this down unless you're 100% positive you're beat. I feel like you knew you were beat, yet still commited the chips. It's how I always feel when put in these situations.

hendal
10-01-2007, 06:21 PM
I noted him bein loose but he quickly ran with his winnings ;-)

DonManuel
10-01-2007, 06:35 PM
put all your money in. If he has a flush you still have plenty of outs (you're 2-1 against a flush). He can easily be 'protecting' KQ or QJ.