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anthb7210p
10-01-2007, 01:59 AM
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MP ($12)
CO ($13.05)
Button ($10)
SB ($10.35)
BB ($15.25)
Hero ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, MP calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.10) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4.6</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $3.30.

Turn: ($11.30) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $7 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

I probably should have made flop bet bigger. But if I call flop raise I'm pretty much committed to call turn push b/c all the chips are going in no matter what, right? How often are we looking at a set here?
Villian is completely unknown, whats your default line here?
john voight
10-01-2007, 02:04 AM
fold or push flop depending on your opponent. Smooth calling is wort play IMO. As played, I'd fold turn (nit, I know). This typr of agression is rarely TP or TP+draw. IMO its usually 2pair. Possibly even strait if he is a decent player.

If you really think ppl are doing this w/ like 88-JJ, or A6, then call I guess, but I dont know. Really close.
anthb7210p
10-01-2007, 02:07 AM
why is smooth calling bad? If I smooth call then all the chips are probably going in by the river anyways
john voight
10-01-2007, 02:15 AM
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why is smooth calling bad? If I smooth call then all the chips are probably going in by the river anyways

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well if you feel like this, then go all in on flop;
you price him in for draws, you have possible fold equity, and your spare yourself a tough turn decision.

What does your call achieve? Nothing, besides free cards for villain, while a re raise achieves a ton more (as I already stated).

Now if you are deeper, and have some more room to play, then you can call and reevaluate, but in this case, I just don't see this as a good option.
brandysbich
10-01-2007, 04:26 AM
Get it in on this flop, this board can only get uglier, as played I call