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n4rf
09-30-2007, 03:14 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($19.25)
CO ($8.90)
Hero ($9.60)
SB ($17.50)
BB ($11.50)
UTG ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.55</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $0.45, CO calls $0.45.

Flop: ($1.80) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $7.8</font>, Hero?


My question is, is it ever profitable to call something like this? It obviously seems like CO has the flush, maybe with low cards, or a set or 2pair or something. Is this always a fold or is that completely villain related?

Villain is 34/12/1 over 80 hands. The first bettor had a VPIP in the high 80's, and he donked his chips into every pot, regardless of what he had(CBET whore).

bsball8806
09-30-2007, 03:19 PM
Not with bets like that. Your implied odds pretty much go to zero, unless you can put MP/CO on a hand like KsXs and know they will be unwilling to give you credit for the nut flush.

You aren't getting close to proper odds, plus I usually assume that at least two of my outs are being held by the other players.

The only time i see this as a +EV play is...I don't really, but if you know you can win all the money if the 4th club hits (i don't see how you could think this, however)