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Ryba
09-25-2007, 07:58 AM
UTG is 34/16/1.5 main villain is 32/8/0.5 I'm playing TAG 20/17/3. My thinking was hes raising an utg raiser and then betting into both of us. Do we fold or play it different?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $53.00
BB: $272.90
UTG: $82.75
MP: $70.60
CO: $37.75
Hero (BTN): $50.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.25

Flop: ($18.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $18.75</font>, Hero ?



I'm playing tight 18/15/3 villain is 34/16/1.5 ( UTG in Hand 1 ), the silly minraise preflop is usually the nuts eh? Lets say you call, flop is 752r we stacking off?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (SB): $49.00
BB: $50.95
UTG: $285.15
MP: $54.15
CO: $74.30
BTN: $42.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.75</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $9.75</font>, [i]Hero ?

jonni999
09-25-2007, 08:10 AM
1. It can be AKd-AQd or AA-KK, i would fold here.
2. Call for Setvalue.

thing85
09-25-2007, 08:21 AM
1st hand: Looks like CO has an overpair (or maybe AK?). I fold this because UTG still has yet to act and has your stack covered. It's probably close between folding and pushing, but clearly CO wants to get his money in before anyone can draw to a straight or flush. His range here is probably 99-AA, and maybe AKs. I don't think he pots the flop with a set. You beat everything except AA and KK, but like I said, UTG still has to act, so I usually like to fold here. I think AA, KK, and AKs are the most likely given villain only raises 8% of the time and probably 3bets much less.

2nd hand: First of all, raise more PF. Make it $7. Next, Villain is pretty LAGgy and like in hand 1, I think it's close between pushing and folding. You could call, but then you'd have to fold if there are any A's or K's on the flop. To a low-card, rainbow flop, we're probably stacking off. Too often I see AA and KK from these kind of players though. Villain almost always has AK, AKs, AA, KK, or QQ (but not here). We're probably a coinflip at best when we push here.

YesMehFriend
09-25-2007, 10:11 AM
hand 1: your hand is pretty bad against his range, he's 8% pfr and 3betting an UTG raiser - that's like jj+/AK almost always imo (maybe even JJ is a call for him). Without reads I fold this pre (the original raiser is still to act). I fold the flop for the same reason.

hand 2: Call for set value and don't stack off on a 752r-like board - playing 34/16 doesn't mean 4betting light imo ...