25NL - AA vs loose player

[VLV]

Villain is 65/21/2 over 93 hands. No other reads like does he bluff with flushes (would be great).

Don't know whats wrong with HH but I'm CO and I have AhAc.

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SB: $28.40
BB: $21.55
UTG: $42.55
MP: $4.65
CO: $25.00
BTN: $19.55

Preflop: CO is dealt Ah Ac(6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.10</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $0.25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.15</font>, UTG calls $1.90

Turn: ($6.85) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4.70</font>, UTG calls $4.70

River: ($16.25) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $34.60</font>, CO/Hero ???

[Let_it_rain]

generally when villian makes a shove like this they have the goods, i find a fold here and have a grumble

[whyzze]

You cant call here.

flush just got there. Its not worth it to find out if you are good here. 1 pair has very little equity facing a shove on this river.

[humP]

Fold, raise more on flop.

[terencetsao]

fold

[senorquinn]

The turn bet was far too small. You give him very good odds on your stack if its the flush draw he is after. 8.5 should be sufficient to cut the odds down. You are then committed to show down and making the call on the river is easy.

[throwfar]

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The turn bet was far too small. You give him very good odds on your stack if its the flush draw he is after. 8.5 should be sufficient to cut the odds down. You are then committed to show down and making the call on the river is easy.

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I dont understand the reasoning for your suggested overbet on the turn? Do we just want to take the pot down right then? If you put him on a flush draw only I don't see what the difference between a shove on the turn or an overbet like you suggest. With a shove at least we're getting all our money in with the best of it... if that is our read of course.

I always feel like with aces I am forced into attempting to extract the most value while tip-toeing through all the possible draws that could be catching up... its always a tough spot.

These situations are always difficult for me, so any insight from anyone would be helpful.

[Logun]

a UTG limp, call 3 bet OOP and Donk the flop

that makes me want to pot the flop and the turn. He's already shown you right there that he will play you oop and call big raises.

River - fold and bust him in another hand. If you had the As I might think about it longer before I folded.

[beano583]

Pretty sure it's a fold...

I would have raised much more on the flop...he;s betting 0.25 into 2.50ish...some things to think about...
- very small bet in relation to the pot; on the flop, since he's a loose player his range is probably any pair KK-66, AT, KT, QT, JT, T9, T8, or the worst possible made hand, 98.
-If he has a draw it's likely a 2 way draw, even at this low of stakes (J9ss, T9ss, QTss, etc.)
-if you raise, you have to raise somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-4.50.
-Your hand against a big draw is a coin flip, and maybe a small dog.
-If you are behind, you are so far behind you are either almost or completely dead.

The idea of betting, is not to completely shut someone out, but make their call a losing call in the long run. Give just bad enough odds where it's wrong to make the call. This situation is a little different because on the flop, his range is huge, is he really is the loose player you say he is.

You can eliminate some hands after he check/calls your turn bet...
-Probably raising KK, TT, 77, 66, KT so no probable
-would just call with most draws, QQ, JJ , 99, 88

I would have made a little more than a half pot bet on the turn (another 4-4.50)

fold on the river, hes not shoving with anyting less than 2 pair or a set, so you're beat even if he didn't get the flush...

muck, next hand...

[dirtylobster]

Fold plz.

[Milky]

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The turn bet was far too small. You give him very good odds on your stack if its the flush draw he is after. 8.5 should be sufficient to cut the odds down. You are then committed to show down and making the call on the river is easy.

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The turn bet was too small but you don't need to overbet the pot. Just make it $5.5-$6 to go. Also raise a little more on the flop.

Easy fold on the river.