PDA

View Full Version : QQ overpair meets heavy flop action


Harry Fong
09-23-2007, 10:45 AM
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<u>Hero (SB): $9.56</u>
<u>BB: $5.95</u>
UTG: $12.17
<u>MP: $1.90</u>
CO: $4.60
BTN: $5.49

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on any villain though have noticed they fit the typical donk profile
Hero is running at 11.5/6.5/3</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Fold, call, 3b, push?

ATM
09-23-2007, 11:25 AM
Is this a joke or a mistype somewhere?

choccypie
09-23-2007, 11:31 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<u>Hero (SB): $9.56</u>
<u>BB: $5.95</u>
UTG: $12.17
<u>MP: $1.90</u>
CO: $4.60
BTN: $5.49

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on any villain though have noticed they fit the typical donk profile
Hero is running at 11.5/6.5/3</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Fold, call, 3b, push?

[/ QUOTE ]

Where's the flop?

Raise QQ pf obv...

1tripz1
09-23-2007, 11:49 AM
i almost always fold here

ThaHero
09-23-2007, 11:52 AM
/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Harry Fong
09-23-2007, 12:06 PM
Sorry, my bad.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker (http://www.legopoker.com) Hand History Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

<u>Hero (SB): $9.56</u>
<u>BB: $5.95</u>
UTG: $12.17
<u>MP: $1.90</u>
CO: $4.60
BTN: $5.49

Reads: <font color="blue">No reads on any villain
Hero is running at 11.5/6.5/3</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.30</font>, BB calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.20) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.80</font>, BB calls $0.80, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $1.60</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

Fold, call, 3b, push?

ThaHero
09-23-2007, 12:13 PM
There are some draws on the board, and it's a decent pot. Who knows what MP has but I'm not folding to a shortstacks all in. They do this with all sorts of stuff. I'm a little weary of what BB has. Could be a set, a draw, anything. This is where reads help. I think I'd push, maybe call sometimes since we have position and can check turn, but given his stack size, if he calls he'll be left with about a PSB anyway. Maybe push is the right answer.

jjb108
09-23-2007, 01:01 PM
The pot is big and you are now committed. You have an overpair. FD is big part of BB range here with PF action minimizing the chance of AA,KK.

Push to protect your hand. A lot of worse hands will still come along.

This pretty standard.

Edit - You need a monster read to fold. Like Villain is 15/5/0 and then he flashes his set early. Which is pretty tough online.

Check_The_Nuts
09-23-2007, 01:03 PM
not sure how bad they are at 5NL but yeah I think pushing here is best. Been a long time since I was there.....

It's for protection and cuz the guy behind you is on a draw at least some of the time. OOP easy push.

ICMoney
09-23-2007, 02:25 PM
I make it .35 pf and around .9 on flop.

I don't mind getting it in here.

Harry Fong
09-23-2007, 07:10 PM
Here is how it happened


Hero raises all-in to $9.26</font>, BB calls all-in for $4.85
Uncalled bet of $3.61 returned to Hero

Turn: ($14.10) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($14.10) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $14.10 ($0.70 Rake)

MP had 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif and LOST (-$1.90)
BB had 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif and LOST (-$5.95)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks) and WON (+$7.45)

I think the rough % to take down the pot from the flop are something like

6h5d - ~10%
2s6s - ~45%
QhQc - ~40%

Something like that.

I got a little lucky. Hehehehe...

sbarber
09-23-2007, 08:06 PM
You got very lucky...to get calls preflop from those hands /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Teh_Jesus
10-05-2007, 02:43 AM
[ QUOTE ]
The pot is big and you are now committed. You have an overpair. FD is big part of BB range here with PF action minimizing the chance of AA,KK.

Push to protect your hand. A lot of worse hands will still come along.

This pretty standard.

Edit - You need a monster read to fold. Like Villain is 15/5/0 and then he flashes his set early. Which is pretty tough online.

[/ QUOTE ]